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1978 National Schools' Final

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:52 am
by MJMcCready
Greetings, I am presently trying to establish who played for St. Albans School when it came runner up in the national school's championship in 1978. I do have a picture of the team but cannot recognise anyone. Could someone assist?
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I did find this on the school's website. Does anyone recognise anyone?

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:08 am
by Graham Alcock

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:30 am
by MJMcCready
Graham Alcock wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:08 am
The SCCU bulletin has a team list. https://sccu-chess.com/bulletins/SCCUBu ... 78_123.pdf
Oh my, the one place I forgot to look. Many thanks.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:35 am
by MJMcCready
The result of the match was rather one-sided I must say.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:35 am
by Ian Thompson
Now I've seen the list of names in the SCCU bulletin, I'm pretty sure Hugh Murphy is 5th from left. I've also played John Nellist but I've no idea what he looks like.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:37 am
by MJMcCready
Many thanks.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:33 am
by Simon Brown
Alastair Simpson is holding the certificate, Huw Murphy to his left and John Nellist to his right. I don’t recognise the names or faces of the others I’m afraid, but I think this was the year that my school, St. Olave’s, almost upset St. Paul’s in the last 16 - I beat Julian, my brother beat Will but only half a point from the other four boards.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 1:28 am
by MJMcCready
Simon Brown wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:33 am
Alastair Simpson is holding the certificate, Huw Murphy to his left and John Nellist to his right. I don’t recognise the names or faces of the others I’m afraid, but I think this was the year that my school, St. Olave’s, almost upset St. Paul’s in the last 16 - I beat Julian, my brother beat Will but only half a point from the other four boards.
Many thanks. May I ask -assuming you know- who went on to be the strongest player of that team and what was his rating at his best do you happen to know? For the opposition, clearly that was GM Julian Hodgson.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:11 am
by Simon Brown
Alastair and Hugh were both about 200 in old money. I always thought Hugh was a bit stronger but there wasn't a lot in it.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:42 am
by Jon D'Souza-Eva
Was Alastair M Simpson the Alastair Murray Simpson who died back in 2003 at the age of 42 or so? There is an Alaistair M Simpson on the English ratings site who last played in 2002/2003, so that would fit.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:54 am
by Roger de Coverly
Simon Brown wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:11 am
Alastair and Hugh were both about 200 in old money. I always thought Hugh was a bit stronger but there wasn't a lot in it.
Hugk Murphy is 2074 in the current list, but hasn't played since last November.

https://rating.englishchess.org.uk/v2/n ... de=115984H

Re: A who's who

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:25 pm
by Simon Brown
Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:42 am
Was Alastair M Simpson the Alastair Murray Simpson who died back in 2003 at the age of 42 or so? There is an Alaistair M Simpson on the English ratings site who last played in 2002/2003, so that would fit.
I didn't know that but the age is correct, he was my contemporary and we played several times.

Re: A who's who

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:24 pm
by MJMcCready
I note that between 1975-1999 St. Paul's Schools won it 10 times. Is there a particular reason for that?

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 3:42 pm
by Hugh Murphy
Gilchrist (can't remember first name), Howard Slater, John Nellist, Alastair Simpson, Hugh Murphy, Robert Rickard.

We were older than St Paul's and had to win by a large margin to win the match due to the age rules. I remember Alastair was better against Julian Hodgson and I was better against William Watson. in the end my game was unfinished and adjudicated by Leonard Barden and (ahem) Brian Eley, the days before any quick play finish!

Re: A who's who

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:29 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Lovely to see one of those in the photo posting to this thread!

Could I ask why the suits? Was it de rigeur to not play in school uniforms?

And where has the name Gilchrist come from? The team list in the SCUU Bulletin (link posted upthread) says "T.M. Grummitt".

For the record:

Sunday Times National Schools Chess Tournament Final
St Ermin's Hotel, London
13 July 1978
St Paul's, London vs St Albans

1. J.M. Hodgson 1-0 A.M. Simpson
2. W.N. Watson 1-0 H.W. Murphy
3. R.F. Holmes 1-0 J.R. Nellist
4. M.J. Benjamin 0.5-0.5 R.E. Rickard
5. D.B. Rosen 1-0 H.J. Slater
6. P. Bowness 0.5-0.5 T.M. Grummitt

Does anyone know who was White on board 1?

The person presenting the prizes is Mr James Evans (a director of Times Newspapers, Ltd.).