SCCA Challenge Cup

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SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:40 am

The challenge cup is complete for another year and here is the final table as of yesterday evening.
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Peter Large is the winner for the first time, maybe even older than Stephen Berry when he last won.

Does anyone have final tables from the 50s, 60s, 70s or 80s or even earlier ?
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:42 am

can someone delete this thread I seem to have duplicated it
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:47 am

Paul Dupré wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:42 am
can someone delete this thread I seem to have duplicated it
or tell me how to delete it
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:24 pm

And perhaps change the title - obviously your SCCA is Surrey, and indeed mine was, but now my SCCA is Somerset!

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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:32 pm

I have deleted the duplicate thread.

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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:17 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:32 pm
I have deleted the duplicate thread.
... and with it the cross-table of results that was only in the other thread.

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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:24 pm

Ah, good point. Here it is.
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:12 pm

And just in case anyone was wondering why it says "WIM" at the top, I suspect that's an abbreviation for Wimbledon, the traditional venue for the top section.

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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:29 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:12 pm
And just in case anyone was wondering why it says "WIM" at the top, I suspect that's an abbreviation for Wimbledon, the traditional venue for the top section.
Small error there, matches were played at Epsom in general (not all).

Lack of ratings and clubs is disappointing. Data that would be useful.
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:01 am

Looking for first names of these past Surrey Champions, if anyone can help ?

1899 FISHER, A W - Battersea
1913 BUTLAND, J - Kennington
1921 BUTLAND, J - Kennington or Battersea
1925 ROBERTSON, T H - Battersea
1927 FLETCHER, A - club unknown
1930 CORNWALL, C F - club unknown
1948 BLACKBURN, R J - club unknown

There doesn't appear to be a record of when the Kennington Chess Club ceased, but the 2nd tier Surrey Individual trophy is called the Slater-Kennington and was presented to the SCCA in 1920. Previously, the Kennington Chess Club championship trophy paid for by Mr Slater presumably.
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:37 am

For those interested the 3rd tier is the Felce Cup started in 1922 and the 4th tier the Wernick Cup also 1922.
You can probably guess who they are named after.

Several players have won 2 out of the 4 events, but only one I could find having won 3 of them

KEENE, Raymond Dennis
1962 Wernick Cup (club - Battersea) aged 14
1963 nothing, did he play in the Felce Cup I wonder, which was won by H T G Smith
1964 Slater-Kennington (club - Battersea) aged 16
1965 Challenge Cup (club - Mushrooms) aged 17
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:54 am

Did find another 3 trophy winner, though not as prolific a rise up the rankings

KINSMAN, Andrew P H
1976 Wernick Cup (club - Wimbledon) aged 11
1979 Slater-Kennington (club - Wimbledon) aged 14
1989 Challenge Cup (club - Wimbledon) aged 24
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Paul Dupré » Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:12 pm

Looking for birth records of these past Surrey Champions, if anyone can help?

1899 FISHER, A W
1925 ROBERTSON, T H
1927 FLETCHER, A
1947 CORDINGLEY, Edgar G R (b.13-Jul-1905)
1948 BLACKBURN, R J
1956 VEITCH, Walter (b.25-Mar-1923)
1972 ARGYRIS, Nicholas J C H
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by John Clarke » Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:04 pm

IIRC, Argyris represented England in the 1961 Glorney Cup, which suggests a birth year of c1943-44.
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Re: SCCA Challenge Cup

Post by Richard James » Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:19 pm

Paul Dupré wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:01 am
Looking for first names of these past Surrey Champions, if anyone can help ?

1899 FISHER, A W - Battersea
1913 BUTLAND, J - Kennington
1921 BUTLAND, J - Kennington or Battersea
1925 ROBERTSON, T H - Battersea
1927 FLETCHER, A - club unknown
1930 CORNWALL, C F - club unknown
1948 BLACKBURN, R J - club unknown

There doesn't appear to be a record of when the Kennington Chess Club ceased, but the 2nd tier Surrey Individual trophy is called the Slater-Kennington and was presented to the SCCA in 1920. Previously, the Kennington Chess Club championship trophy paid for by Mr Slater presumably.
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