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Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:22 pm
by Paul Dupré
Hi all,
Does anyone have bulletins from the Surrey junior championships played at Glyn School, Epsom during the 1970s. Specifically, 1974 to 1977 which I think I played in.
Also, Evening Standard London Junior events 1972 to 1982. Some of which I played. I'm most interested in the under 12s where Richard Holmes beat Julian Hodgson in a play-off.
Don't actually know if there were bulletins for either event.
Thanks in advance,
Paul
Re: Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:03 am
by Leonard Barden
I don't recall any bulletins with games from either event. The Evening Standard London juniors had a results bulletin which also included team lists for the GM simuls which took place after the prizegiving. Most of the game scores ended up in my bedroom cupboard after I'd looked them over for possible Evening Standard puzzle positions.
Re: Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:53 pm
by Paul Dupré
Thanks Leonard,
When I gave up chess the first time, I threw away all my junior paperwork. So, I have no games scores or anything else. But, I do recall results bulletins, which I would like to see again just for interest sake.
Cheers,
Paul
Re: Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:26 pm
by Leonard Barden
The London junior bulletins were produced by Peter Morrish, who did all the enormous work of calculating the results and prizewinners, then typing, duplicating and posting the bulletins. I no longer have copies, but perhaps another Forumite does.
I don't recall Tommy Dunne producing any bulletins for the Surrey juniors, but I was not in close touch with that event so cannot be sure.
Re: Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:59 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Leonard Barden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:03 am
Most of the game scores ended up in my bedroom cupboard after I'd looked them over for possible Evening Standard puzzle positions.
This comment by Leonard got me thinking about where chess columnists get their puzzle positions from. The obvious answer is "current and past tournament and league and match games". I suppose you could add "games from internet chess sites" as well now. But I hadn't considered junior events as a source. (Leonard, I don't suppose you can remember what rough proportion of the Evening Standard puzzles were from junior events?)
Some positions are just given as "White to move". Some are given with the details of who is playing. I still remember when a combination I had played to win a game got published in a report of a junior event!
I never appeared in the Evening Standard, as far as I know...

Re: Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:07 pm
by David Sedgwick
Leonard Barden wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:26 pm
I don't recall Tommy Dunne producing any bulletins for the Surrey juniors, but I was not in close touch with that event so cannot be sure.
I played in the event in the very early 1970's, a few years before Paul.
I too have no recollection of there being any bulletins.
Re: Surrey Junior tournaments at Glyn School, Epsom
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:14 am
by Paul Dupré
David, we both played in Evening Standard junior event at Starcross School in 1974.