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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Richard James » Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:50 am

https://britishchessnews.com/2023/04/19 ... r-beamish/

This article gives my current views on the chess playing Beamish family.

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by John Saunders » Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:14 pm

Thanks, Richard. I've re-read your piece and concluded, like you, that the "A Beamish" active in London chess was Edmund Arthur Beamish, despite him being referred to as "A Beamish" in multiple contemporary references (at a time when forename initials seemed to be de rigueur). I think I shall compromise by identifying him as (Edmund) Arthur Beamish on BritBase.

The existence of another 'A Beamish' in Devon does still leave the door slightly ajar. Also on my database (courtesy of Brian Denman) is another "A Beamish" playing a correspondence game for Ireland against (would you believe) Devon in 1907. The game was on board 4, with F. U. Beamish playing on board 3 for Ireland.



I wonder... could this be (Edmund) Arthur Beamish playing for his ancestral country? Or the Devonian "A Beamish" deciding that blood is thicker than Devonian water? Answers on a postcard...
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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:02 pm

I played for Croydon against a West London team including Captain Beamish some time in 1945 (probably autumn). I vaguely remember looking at his game and thinking, yes, he does have a military air. My opponent was Dr SP Schotz, on or around Board 15, so the Captain and I may have been quite close. It was my first team game for Croydon. selected due to winning the club junior championship with 9/9. I was over-impressed by the important-looking figure seated opposite, and I guess Schotz feared he was playing some prodigy, so we ground our way to a mutually respectful draw in a Queen's Indian in around 15 moves. I think their top board was Mieses, who lost to Croydon's DR Lester.

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:53 am

More on Leonard's opponent - and his brother - here:

https://www.chessscotland.com/documents ... others.htm

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:34 am

Gerard Killoran wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:53 am
More on Leonard's opponent - and his brother - here:
https://www.chessscotland.com/documents ... others.htm
I don't believe either of Dr Schotz's children took up chess. However his daughter, Nina Padwick (maiden name Shotts), was a competitive rower. She was born in 1929 and I think she is still alive and was still rowing once a week until a few years ago.

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:04 pm

Another game of Schotz, in the individual championship of the London League.


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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Richard James » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:59 am

A game from the 1904 British Ladies Championship. It's not specified which of Miss Finn's queens made the final move.

Source: The Pall Mall Gazette 10 September 1904


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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by John Saunders » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:57 pm

Richard James wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:59 am
A game from the 1904 British Ladies Championship. It's not specified which of Miss Finn's queens made the final move.

Source: The Pall Mall Gazette 10 September 1904
Many thanks, Richard. I have added the game to the BritBase collection.
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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by John Saunders » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:05 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:02 pm
I played for Croydon against a West London team including Captain Beamish some time in 1945 (probably autumn). I vaguely remember looking at his game and thinking, yes, he does have a military air. My opponent was Dr SP Schotz, on or around Board 15, so the Captain and I may have been quite close. It was my first team game for Croydon. selected due to winning the club junior championship with 9/9. I was over-impressed by the important-looking figure seated opposite, and I guess Schotz feared he was playing some prodigy, so we ground our way to a mutually respectful draw in a Queen's Indian in around 15 moves. I think their top board was Mieses, who lost to Croydon's DR Lester.
BCM, February 1945, page 38, reported on this match, which was played on 16 December 1944 when Leonard was 15. A couple of other minor inaccuracies in memory, but forgivable given that this was nigh on 80(!) years ago...

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Leonard Barden » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:14 pm

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I think their top board was Mieses, who lost to Croydon's DR Lester.
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. A couple of other minor inaccuracies in memory, but forgivable given that this was nigh on 80(!) years ago...

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I make it at least six errors in a short paragraph, so a more accurate summary would be that the writer is getting senile. At least I got the top board pairing and result right.

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:32 pm

Any chance you met or know who "Capt. O. Range" was? (Mentioning it in case you or John missed the additions to that thread.)

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Leonard Barden » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:08 pm

No idea, I didn't start going to the Lud Eagle club until late 1945 or 1946.

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Post by John Saunders » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:11 pm

Minor inaccuracies aside, your memory still seems phenomenal to me, Leonard, speaking as a youngster of 71 who is heavily reliant on printed sources for info.

Here's the record of an earlier Croydon v West London, on 7 October 1944, in which you took part. BCM (December 1944, page 281) spelt your name wrong.

BCM1944-12p281-Barden.jpg

Leonard's opponent that day was John Anthony Eaton Allum, born in 1925 and known as Tony. He died only two years ago, after a long and distinguished career as a geologist. If you click on the link, you will learn that "Tony revived his interest in chess and in 1997 defeated a past US grandmaster at the Bermuda International Open." I've not been able to discover who that was but perhaps Nick Faulks could comment if he happens to read this.

BCM also got DR Lester's initials wrong (I've found lots of newspaper references to DR Lester, who was also a Slough, Bucks and Ealing player from the early 1930s to the late 1940s, but no chess player called DK Lester. However, a search for DR Lester's forenames produced nothing). BCM also published Mieses's win from the October match, but not Lester's revenge in the December match.

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:19 pm

There's a mention of STK Wilkinson in the junior event - I assume he is no longer with us?

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:30 am

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:19 pm
There's a mention of STK Wilkinson in the junior event - I assume he is no longer with us?
To prompt further interest in Kevin's enquiry (there are many references to Wilkinson over his playing career, far more than the two below):

(i) An S.T.K. Wilkinson is shown (graded 144) playing for Wimbledon 2 in 2000:

https://kingstonchess.com/wp-content/up ... n-2000.pdf

(ii) An earlier reference is from 1979, an issue of 'Knightmare' (I do hope these resources are being archived properly so that if websites go down eventually, they are still available somewhere more permanent):

https://streathamchess.org/assets/knigh ... _part1.pdf

Unfortunately something not quite right with the OCR-searching element, so you have to scan through it visually and get horribly distracted by all the enticing (and enthralling) chess history in there... (and failed to find what is presumably a mention of Wilkinson somewhere).

(iii) ECF Rating list

https://www.ecfrating.org.uk/v2/new/pla ... de=121679L

Listed as "Wilkinson, ST Kevin", last club was "Greater London Chess Club". Appears to have last played in 2014.

Might be one of those cases where it is difficult to find out more.