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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by John Saunders » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:20 pm

Many thanks again, Gerard. I've added them to the 1950 BritBase file.

I've added another item to BritBase documents: the 1974 BCF Grading List (down to 185 or approx. 2080 in modern terms)
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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Gerard Killoran » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:45 pm

John Saunders wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:10 pm
Thanks for the game, Gerard - added to the 1950 file.

Leonard tells me he has no recollection of his 1950 game against F.Noble, nor how Oxford University came to be playing Sheffield University in a match since there was no BUCA team event at that time. It may have been a National Club match but I have yet to run it to ground.
It was an individual, not a team championship and Leonard came second to Oliver Penrose!

UNIVERSITIES CHESS

Oliver Penrose of Cambridge has just succeeded in defeating L. W. Barden of Oxford in the Universities Chess Congress which concluded at Cambridge on Saturday July 29th Twenty-four competitors fought each other under the Swiss system.

Chatham Standard - Wednesday 16 August 1950 p.4

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Leonard Barden » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:35 pm

WRONG!

https://www.saund.co.uk/britbase/pdfs/1 ... annual.pdf

The 1950 BUCA annual above has a complete crosstable for the individual championship at Cambridge, which has no player named Noble, and details for the team championship, from which it is clear that Oxford did not meet Sheffield.

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Post by Paul Habershon » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:54 am

I see from this that Cambridge University beat Lud-Eagle in the first ever National Club Championship Final in 1950. The score was 3-3 and Cambridge won on the 'elimination' rule. However, they would have lost on 'board count', which was presumably introduced later.

Cambridge won on Boards 4 and 5, Lud-Eagle on 1 and 6.

I like the names in the eliminated Board 6 game: Coward v Fischer.

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by John Saunders » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:24 pm

A few more elderly grading lists have just found their way onto BritBase and elsewhere... (link to these and other such documents).

The 1970 Grading List - grades down to 185 (or around Elo 2080 in our new four-figure world). Featured a dramatic re-entry into the 'charts' for Leonard Barden (I'm beginning to sound like Alan Freeman on Pick of the Pops).

The 1971 Grading List: actually, this one's not located at BritBase but I was notified of its existence at the excellent IRLchess.com website by Sean Coffey. I've put in a link at BritBase so you can always find it that way.

The 1972 Grading List: also at IRLchess.com.

The 1974 Grading List, at BritBase.

Lots of scope for trips down memory lane. You will note that I've tried to supply at least one forename for players in the 1970 and 1974 lists but a few of them are still holding out. If anyone can fill in the missing forenames, do please contribute them here.
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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Gerard Killoran » Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:11 am

Atkins was living and working in Northampton at the time.



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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by John Townsend » Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:06 am

May I propose a vote of thanks to John Saunders for putting these latest "elderly" grading lists on Britbase. As John said, these offer trips down Memory Lane, but also, of course, they provide invaluable support for historical research.

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Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:11 am

"May I propose a vote of thanks to John Saunders for putting these latest "elderly" grading lists on Britbase. As John said, these offer trips down Memory Lane, but also, of course, they provide invaluable support for historical research."

Seconded!

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Post by John Saunders » Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:07 pm

Thanks to Gerard for the Atkins-Bridgwater score which I have added to the Atkins file on BritBase; also to John and Kevin for the kind words.
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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Richard James » Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:38 pm

A (not terribly exciting) game from the play-off for the 1913 British Ladies Championship.


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Post by John Saunders » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:05 am

Many thanks, Richard.

Your discovery led me to search for their other decisive play-off game, which I duly found...



I have added both games to the 1913 British Championship file on BritBase.
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Post by Gerard Killoran » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 am

Where 'Otto' Clarke misses win after win in an appallingly played endgame and ultimately lets PWS off the hook.

Notes by PWS via Elaine Saunders' columns in the Bucks Advertiser.



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Post by John Saunders » Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:49 pm

Many thanks, Gerard. I've added it to BritBase on this page: https://www.saund.org.uk/britbase/pgn/1 ... iewer.html - 1½ games from the Oxford Past v Cambridge Past match but, as yet, no games from the subsequent Varsity match proper.
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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Gerard Killoran » Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:51 pm

Meanwhile, back to chess history....

Elaine Saunders' column in the Bucks Advertiser is a rare source of games by women and girls in the 1940s.

In the first game, white drops a Bishop, only for her opponent deciding to do without a Rook and a Bishop for the rest of the game:








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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Gerard Killoran » Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:43 pm

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