Alekhine's cow

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Alekhine's cow

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:00 am

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It's not the first time I've come across this claim, but is there any actual reason to think Alekhine ever owned a cow? If not, where did the story originate?
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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:22 pm

Perhaps he had one of these...

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Post by NickFaulks » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:51 pm

Or perhaps he shot his cow with Alekhine's Gun.
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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:36 am

Also note this from Bryan Smith
...there was something that neither the public nor Euwe knew: in the intervening years, Alekhine had bought a cow.

What this meant was that Alekhine was drinking fresh milk, straight from that cow, rather than his usual vodka, whiskey, or whatever.
which is the sort of thing I wouldn't mind seeing the source for.
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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by John Townsend » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:30 am

Please note the item headed "Milk supply" in Edward Winter's Chess Jottings:

https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/jottings.html

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:46 am

Cheers. So does anybody have Chess World for July 1954?
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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Ian Rogers » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:55 am

There is no source for the cow claim in 'Chess World' July 1954, which is part of an overview of the previous quarter century.
Also, Purdy does not mention the cow in his book 'The Return of Alekhine', published in 1938.

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:01 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:00 am

It's not the first time I've come across this claim, but is there any actual reason to think Alekhine ever owned a cow? If not, where did the story originate?
Well, I for one find buying an actual cow is the simplest solution whenever I fancy a glass of milk. So I'm sure this anecdote is entirely true.

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:04 am

Ian Rogers wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:55 am
There is no source for the cow claim in 'Chess World' July 1954, which is part of an overview of the previous quarter century.
So it's not even a quote?
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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Ian Rogers » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:26 am

No, just a statement.
There must be an earlier source, since Purdy was not in the habit of making things up (and published plenty of comments/interviews by the players after the 1937 match).

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:36 pm

Ian Rogers wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:26 am
No, just a statement.
There must be an earlier source, since Purdy was not in the habit of making things up (and published plenty of comments/interviews by the players after the 1937 match).
It's not referenced in Extreme Chess (Thinkers Press 1999) which includes an 'edited reissue' of Purdy's The Return of Alekhine (1938). So I suppose it might have been in the original and Thinkers Press decided to edit it out from the re-issue - but that strikes me as unlikely.

In the Prologue to Extreme Chess - i.e. not written by Purdy - there's a reference to Alekhine losing in 1935 after "he gave in to a long-standing weakness for drink". The following paragraph begins, "If Alekhine loved alcohol, he loved chess and the championship even more. With determination he regained much of his fitness ...." and went on to defeat Euwe in the return match. no mention of a cow.


Worth mentioning, I think, that in the period in question Alekhine played in Nottingham (1936) and Hastings (1936/7). Is the suggestion that he pitched up with a cow as his second? And that nobody thought to mention it at the time?

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:01 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:36 pm
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Worth mentioning, I think, that in the period in question Alekhine played in Nottingham (1936) and Hastings (1936/7). Is the suggestion that he pitched up with a cow as his second? And that nobody thought to mention it at the time?
It would be nice to think that he did. There is this (presumably better supported) story of his appearing at the Polish border without a passport and grandly announcing his name, together with his cat called Chess. So all we need is to imagine that the cat died and he then took to touring Europe telling customs officers "come on, it's me, Alekhine, the ex-Champion of the World. And if you don't believe me, this is my cow. She is my "Milky Way" back to my title."

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:17 pm

"And if you don't believe me, this is my cow. She is my "Milky Way" back to my title.""

It's been a stressful day and that cheered me up - thank you.

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by John Townsend » Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:16 am

The association of a cow with Alekhine's recapture of the world title must date back to his lifetime, since the following appeared as part of a death notice in The Advertiser (Adelaide), 26 March 1946, page 7:
"But Alekhine went into strict training, gave up smoking (he had been a chain smoker), lived largely on the milk of a pedigreed cow, and defeated Dr. Euwe in 1937."
This was said to have been written by "A.A.P. and Our Special Representative, London, March 25".

I found the report on Trove: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

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Re: Alekhine's cow

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:07 pm

Fantastic effort. Wonder if we can get closer to the original story.
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