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English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:10 pm
by Geoff Chandler
Hi,

Picked this up today for 50p. (published 1918, actually a first edition in good nick).
I left behind a couple of bright and glossy obviously unread Silmans (£2.00 each)

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I had heard of this book, I'm sure Ed Lasker mentions it in his 'Chess Secrets....'
Was surprised to see it used algebraic notation. I thought English chess books using algebraic did not appear till the late 60's.

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And in case you wondering how does a super cool dude dress when going around the junk shops.
(everything bar the socks and sandals came from a charity shop, including the man bag it all came to less than £6.00.)

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Daughter says you should not wear socks with sandals - makes up these rules?

Re: English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:56 pm
by MJMcCready
I suppose it does beg the question regarding the first publication to use algebraic. I'm stumped on that one.

Re: English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:04 pm
by Tim Harding
I believe it has been pointed out previously on this forum that Phillip Stamma's "The Noble Game of Chess" (1745) used algebraic notation.

More difficult questions might be what was the first English-language chess book of the 20th century to use it, and whether any did in the 19th century. (There was at least one advocate for algebraic in a Sussex chess column circa 1880, but it didn't catch on.)

Re: English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:10 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
Didn't "Chess" experiment with algebraic early on? I still remember one of our veteran club members, born 1899, steadfastly using R-QKtsq into the 1970s

Re: English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:47 pm
by Jonathan Bryant
Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:10 pm
Didn't "Chess" experiment with algebraic early on? I still remember one of our veteran club members, born 1899, steadfastly using R-QKtsq into the 1970s
I don't know but they certainly trialled a system where they used both alegbraic and descriptive mixed together for each game at the same time. It doesn't seem to have lasted that long. Unsurprisingly.

Re: English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:05 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
That was IIRC in about 1978/79, I think Chess also had the odd one-off experiment with algebraic before that.

Re: English Language Book Using Algebraic

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:53 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
"I think Chess also had the odd one-off experiment with algebraic before that"

Yes, round about 1947 - (I remembered why I thought that.)