London Chess Classic 2023

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Paul Cooksey » Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:39 pm

I have to admit I am a bit disappointed no spectators. But glad the event is going ahead.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:51 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:39 pm
I have to admit I am a bit disappointed no spectators. But glad the event is going ahead.
I think cost of a venue with room for spectators (such as Olympia) have proved a stumbling block in recent times.

Not the same as watching them play but for £15 you can meet the players, get a free drink and enjoy "a relaxed evening of blitz, beer and banter" For £2000 you can play in the "Pro Biz Cup"

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Tim Spanton » Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:50 am

Posted today at the ECF website:
Chess in Schools and Communities are proud to announce that the London Chess Classic will return to the capital this December for its thirteenth edition. The London Chess Classic will be a ten-player all-play-all with nine Super Grandmasters, including the rising star of Indian chess, Dommaraju Gukesh ranked world number 12, and the American Hans Niemann, whose sensational victory over the then world champion Magnus Carlsen sent the chess world into turmoil.
The event takes place in central London from Friday 1st December to Sunday 10th December. The tournament is not open to the public, but all the action from the tournament will be broadcast live online via Londonchessclassic.com
The ten players competing are: GM Dommaraju Gukesh (India) 2746; GM Nikita Vitiugov (England) 2712; GM Amin Tabatabaei (Iran) 2694; GM Michael Adams; (England) 2670; GM Andrei Volokitin (Ukraine) 2660; GM Hans Niemann (USA) 2659; GM Mateusz Bartel (Poland) 2651; GM Jules Moussard (France) 2639; GM Luke McShane (England) 2626; IM Shreyas Royal (England) 2404

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:58 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:50 am
The tournament is not open to the public, but all the action from the tournament will be broadcast live online via Londonchessclassic.com
Live, or with a delay of a few munutes, perhaps as many as 30 ?

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Tim Spanton » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:27 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:58 pm
Tim Spanton wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:50 am
The tournament is not open to the public, but all the action from the tournament will be broadcast live online via Londonchessclassic.com
Live, or with a delay of a few munutes, perhaps as many as 30 ?
Maybe, but with no spectators and access strictly controlled, is there any need for a delay?

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:50 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:27 pm
Maybe, but with no spectators and access strictly controlled, is there any need for a delay?
If someone were able to smuggle in a device that could receive signals, an accomplice could use the live coverage to communicate suggested moves and evaluations. That's not terribly useful if it's half an hour after the moves.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by MJMcCready » Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:19 pm

I think the chances of that are either pretty slim or non-existent

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by MJMcCready » Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:21 pm

And in case you haven't noticed, which you could say also holds true for the vast majority of the chess playing public, you are unlikely to continue to improve if you spend your time fretting over whether your opponent may or may not be cheating. As Piaget made quite clear, better to focus on your own abilities than that of your opponent.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:36 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:21 pm
And in case you haven't noticed, which you could say also holds true for the vast majority of the chess playing public
It doesn't though. To faciliate cheating you need to communicate moves to an engine and get the feedback. The communication part and delivery of moves and assesment is readily available to spectators in a manner that doesn't apply to most league and tournament play. You need measures to prevent players acting as spectators listening to commentary on their own games.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:39 pm

If I am watching online it makes no difference whether it is live or with 30 minutes delay - it’s not like a football match where the result might pop up on a newsfeed or a noisy neighbour gives the game away. Looking forward to a good tournament.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:52 pm

Graham Borrowdale wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:39 pm
If I am watching online it makes no difference whether it is live or with 30 minutes delay - it’s not like a football match where the result might pop up on a newsfeed or a noisy neighbour gives the game away. Looking forward to a good tournament.
At the European Club Cup it did take some getting used to when the players in my team would pop up in our Facebook Chat group whilst I was still watching the end of their games!

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Paul Heaton » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:33 pm

“The Budget of the tournament is probably smaller than today’s dinner” - Giri comparing this years London Chess Classic to the Thanksgiving Dinner the organisers arranged at the Sinquefield Cup

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:25 pm

Hans Niemann warms up for the Classic by winning an all-play-all three points clear of the other nine GMs!
https://chess-results.com/tnr852516.asp ... =1&flag=30

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Geoff Chandler » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:14 pm

...and going for and getting a win in the last round when the tournament was already won. His opponent, Anton Korobov, the highest rated player in the tournament was most likely expecting a quick draw.

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Re: London Chess Classic 2023

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:03 pm

Needless to say, this stellar performance has got some tongues wagging.
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