I assume there's nothing stopping you or anyone else attending from recording the meeting?NickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:20 amAll the more reason for meetings to be recorded.Michael Farthing wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:26 amBut as Paul says - memories are unreliable and mine getting more so.
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I suspect that is untrue, at least if I subsequently make it public. No doubt there are some here who know.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:50 amI assume there's nothing stopping you or anyone else attending from recording the meeting?
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Possibly a Twitch or YouTube stream would be welcome?Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:50 amI assume there's nothing stopping you or anyone else attending from recording the meeting?NickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:20 amAll the more reason for meetings to be recorded.Michael Farthing wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:26 amBut as Paul says - memories are unreliable and mine getting more so.
No doubt these technologies are not familiar to many members of Council.
Perhaps we settle for a Twitter stream?
Can't wait for CFs address!
I suspect it will be more important for Chris to address the meeting than the outcome of the vote.
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I'm told that recording without consent is legal, if done for personal use, but sharing it is notNickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:55 amI suspect that is untrue, at least if I subsequently make it public. No doubt there are some here who know.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:50 amI assume there's nothing stopping you or anyone else attending from recording the meeting?
Perhaps you can suggest to the Chair that the meeting is recorded (or at least, that subsequent ones are), which should be straightforward on Zoom; then a link could be sent to ECF members who want to watch it after the event?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the final sentence is something along the lines of it being impossible to work with the "divisive" Mike Truran following his "campaign of disinformation and downright untruths", so he's withdrawing from the election.John Upham wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:27 amCan't wait for CFs address!
I suspect it will be more important for Chris to address the meeting than the outcome of the vote.
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Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:15 amI wouldn't be surprised if the final sentence is something along the lines of it being impossible to work with the "divisive" Mike Truran following his "campaign of disinformation and downright untruths", so he's withdrawing from the election.John Upham wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:27 amCan't wait for CFs address!
I suspect it will be more important for Chris to address the meeting than the outcome of the vote.
Indeed. Mystic Egg (Meg's sister) predicted the same.
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What law is it suggested would be broken in that circumstance?Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:10 am
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I'm happy to come along and do a courtroom sketch for the forum.
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Maybe make it pay per viewMick Norris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:10 amI'm told that recording without consent is legal, if done for personal use, but sharing it is notNickFaulks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:55 amI suspect that is untrue, at least if I subsequently make it public. No doubt there are some here who know.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:50 amI assume there's nothing stopping you or anyone else attending from recording the meeting?
Perhaps you can suggest to the Chair that the meeting is recorded (or at least, that subsequent ones are), which should be straightforward on Zoom; then a link could be sent to ECF members who want to watch it after the event?
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Am I the only one who thinks that nothing could possibly go wrong with recording a meeting so that comments made in the moment, perhaps without full felicity of expression or considered reflection, can be preserved verbatim for posterity so that they can be quoted and requoted through the ages?
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This is also true of the internet though
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What could go wrong is that people who say daft things cannot claim not to have said them.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:42 amAm I the only one who thinks that nothing could possibly go wrong with recording a meeting so that comments made in the moment, perhaps without full felicity of expression or considered reflection, can be preserved verbatim for posterity so that they can be quoted and requoted through the ages?
If you say something in an open meeting of which you are subsequently ashamed, then you should have thought before you said it. In my opinion ECF members have the right to know how their representatives have conducted themselves at Council meetings.
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I am no longer a member of Council, but when I was I considered Council meetings to be private for Council members. Whatever the legality, I would have objected strongly if anyone had recorded a meeting, or taken photographs, without the knowledge of the meeting of the consent of the Chairman. On one occasion I did complain about an unauthorised photograph.
However, Council members have the right to make their meetings public if they wish.
I would suggest that for the forthcoming hybrid meeting the Zoom call be recorded. Then the principle can be discussed under AOB, as the Chairman has suggested. According to the feeling of Council, the recording could then either be made public or destroyed. Either way, a precedent for future meetings would have been established.
However, Council members have the right to make their meetings public if they wish.
I would suggest that for the forthcoming hybrid meeting the Zoom call be recorded. Then the principle can be discussed under AOB, as the Chairman has suggested. According to the feeling of Council, the recording could then either be made public or destroyed. Either way, a precedent for future meetings would have been established.
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I think that's a very reasonable position. To be honest I doubt an 'illicit' recording would be a criminal matter even if it was shared (although I stand to be corrected if anybody can suggest a particular law that is being broken), but whether it's a pleasant way to be going out your business is another matter entirely.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:49 pmWhatever the legality, I would have objected strongly if anyone had recorded a meeting, or taken photographs, without the knowledge of the meeting of the consent of the Chairman.
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It's a large enough attendance that anything said is likely to be leaked.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:49 pmI am no longer a member of Council, but when I was I considered Council meetings to be private for Council members.
Was there a meeting at the time of the ill-fated Chess Sets for Schools scheme when a briefing on the progress of the project was supposedly confidential?