Chief Executive 2021
-
- Posts: 2075
- Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:23 pm
- Location: Harrogate
Re: Chief Executive 2021
It was me who brought the "rumour" on to the forum but I have heard it from several different sources. If it is inaccurate then perhaps Malcolm (or somebody in his team) can set the record straight and I will apologise and withdraw.
In any case we have an unprecedented situation in this election. If Malcolm wins then he must vacate the international director role so asking for his succession plan is surely not unreasonable. And if he loses will he still feel able to serve with Mike on the board?
In any case we have an unprecedented situation in this election. If Malcolm wins then he must vacate the international director role so asking for his succession plan is surely not unreasonable. And if he loses will he still feel able to serve with Mike on the board?
Controller - Yorkshire League
Chairman - Harrogate Chess Club
All views expressed entirely my own
Chairman - Harrogate Chess Club
All views expressed entirely my own
-
- Posts: 2340
- Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:30 pm
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Forgive me for asking
Does everyone get a vote in the election?
How does the election work?
Does everyone get a vote in the election?
How does the election work?
-
- Posts: 7226
- Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:29 am
- Location: Cove, Hampshire, England.
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Andrew,Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:28 pmI have heard it reported that Malcolm Pein, if elected, will vacate the CEO post as soon as he can appoint a successor.
Please could you detail where you have read / heard these reports?
I would like to read and / or listen to them.
J.
British Chess News : britishchessnews.com
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
Twitter: @BritishChess
Facebook: facebook.com/groups/britishchess
-
- Posts: 21320
- Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm
Re: Chief Executive 2021
NO you don't get to vote. It's mostly only organisations that get the votes and only then if they send a representative to the AGM or appoint a proxy who will be attending.Simon Rogers wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmForgive me for asking
Does everyone get a vote in the election?
How does the election work?
There are "Direct Member Representatives" who supposedly represent individuals, but five of them already seem to have decided how to vote without public consultation.
If you have the patience, there's fifteen years or more of material on the site about ECF elections.
-
- Posts: 2075
- Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:23 pm
- Location: Harrogate
Re: Chief Executive 2021
The voting register for the election can be found here https://www.englishchess.org.uk/about/e ... and-board/ Individual members do not have a direct vote but most of us will have several indirect ones; the first through the ECF delegate for your local league (if they are a member organisation - not all are) and the second through your direct member representatives. Neither are obliged to go with the majority vote but should be challenged and held accountable if not.Simon Rogers wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmForgive me for asking
Does everyone get a vote in the election?
How does the election work?
Controller - Yorkshire League
Chairman - Harrogate Chess Club
All views expressed entirely my own
Chairman - Harrogate Chess Club
All views expressed entirely my own
-
- Posts: 1295
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:12 pm
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Don't you have sources yourself? You are normally so up to speed it makes Woodward and Bernstein look amateur.John Upham wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:27 pmAndrew,Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:28 pmI have heard it reported that Malcolm Pein, if elected, will vacate the CEO post as soon as he can appoint a successor.
Please could you detail where you have read / heard these reports?
I would like to read and / or listen to them.
J.
-
- Posts: 1057
- Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Interesting! I did wonder whether a certain remark by a certain Tim was more than a slip of the tongueAndrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:28 pmI have heard it reported that Malcolm Pein, if elected, will vacate the CEO post as soon as he can appoint a successor. I sincerely hope that this is not the case but it would be useful if Malcolm could confirm it. In any case the question of what will happen to the International Directorship if Malcolm vacates it remains unanswered.
Donate to Sabrina's fundraiser at https://gofund.me/aeae42c7 to support victims of sexual abuse in the chess world.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
Northumberland webmaster, Jesmond CC something-or-other. Views mine. Definitely below the Goodall Line.
-
- Posts: 677
- Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:51 pm
- Location: Manchester
Re: Chief Executive 2021
I like to go on record that I always have gone with the majority of what the members tell me to vote,Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:33 pmNO you don't get to vote. It's mostly only organisations that get the votes and only then if they send a representative to the AGM or appoint a proxy who will be attending.Simon Rogers wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmForgive me for asking
Does everyone get a vote in the election?
How does the election work?
There are "Direct Member Representatives" who supposedly represent individuals, but five of them already seem to have decided how to vote without public consultation.
If you have the patience, there's fifteen years or more of material on the site about ECF elections.
My email to the silver members will start with this
As your representative, I want to hear your views as to how to cast your votes, so please let me know your thoughts.
I have always voted on how I was told as I want to make sure the voice of the voiceless is use
I can’t comment on other members rep but I been accused by my fellow rep in the pass of saying I’m never vote against some people and I just laugh
I always said this “I’m in no one camp and I always judge people on face value! I won’t tell anyone how to vote as it is their choice and I’m happy to give my options but it the league and proxy that I support to make their decision as I’m actions on what I’m told to”
Any postings on here represent my personal views only and also Dyslexia as well
-
- Posts: 21320
- Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 pm
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Perhaps he sees no need for a replacement in the international director role.Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmIf Malcolm wins then he must vacate the international director role so asking for his succession plan is surely not unreasonable.
A cunning plan might have Malcolm if elected as CEO resign almost immediately in favour of person X. Malcolm is then reappointed to the vacant international role.
-
- Posts: 10364
- Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:06 am
- Location: Somewhere you're not
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Just to note again that for me, not that I have a vote, "the sort of people Malcolm surrounds himself with" is pretty much the sole issue in the election.J T Melsom wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:54 pmAnd we have seen the sort of people Malcolm surrounds himself with
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
lostontime.blogspot.com
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
lostontime.blogspot.com
-
- Posts: 6028
- Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:05 pm
- Location: Evesham
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Should you perhaps name the sources Andrew?Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmIt was me who brought the "rumour" on to the forum but I have heard it from several different sources. If it is inaccurate then perhaps Malcolm (or somebody in his team) can set the record straight and I will apologise and withdraw.
In any case we have an unprecedented situation in this election. If Malcolm wins then he must vacate the international director role so asking for his succession plan is surely not unreasonable. And if he loses will he still feel able to serve with Mike on the board?
Cheers
Carl Hibbard
Carl Hibbard
-
- Posts: 10382
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:12 am
- Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester
Re: Chief Executive 2021
I've been told that Malcom had said this; if so, that would account for how you've heard it from multiple sourcesAndrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmIt was me who brought the "rumour" on to the forum but I have heard it from several different sources. If it is inaccurate then perhaps Malcolm (or somebody in his team) can set the record straight and I will apologise and withdraw.
Any postings on here represent my personal views
-
- Posts: 7258
- Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am
Re: Chief Executive 2021
Isn't this the rumour started by CJ when Malcolm stood for non-executive director many years ago?Mick Norris wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:44 amI've been told that Malcom had said this; if so, that would account for how you've heard it from multiple sourcesAndrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmIt was me who brought the "rumour" on to the forum but I have heard it from several different sources. If it is inaccurate then perhaps Malcolm (or somebody in his team) can set the record straight and I will apologise and withdraw.
-
- Posts: 2075
- Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:23 pm
- Location: Harrogate
Re: Chief Executive 2021
I have heard this report from different people who currently hold votes on council.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:44 amI've been told that Malcom had said this; if so, that would account for how you've heard it from multiple sourcesAndrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pmIt was me who brought the "rumour" on to the forum but I have heard it from several different sources. If it is inaccurate then perhaps Malcolm (or somebody in his team) can set the record straight and I will apologise and withdraw.
Controller - Yorkshire League
Chairman - Harrogate Chess Club
All views expressed entirely my own
Chairman - Harrogate Chess Club
All views expressed entirely my own
-
- Posts: 1525
- Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:15 pm
Re: Chief Executive 2021
This is tricky. I generally warn people who email or PM me suggesting things I say that it would be better if they posted here themselves. Usually with a warning that I might make further messages public.
I've been doing this at least a decade, since Sean Hewitt sent me the details of a proposal being discussed and I felt I had to stop posting about it as a result.
I had heard this rumour. I'd describe it as an allegation really - since was presented as a concern about Malcolm's candidacy. But it was sent to the me as ECF Delegate, and as we all always say postings here are my personal views and are not the representative of, etc...
That said I don't think ECF Delegates should be keeping things secret from the organisations they represent. So if I have to share it with a large number of people, including some in the CSC camp, I think probably no harm to the candidates if I post things here.
I'll pause here for views... (hello Mike, Chris...)
I've been doing this at least a decade, since Sean Hewitt sent me the details of a proposal being discussed and I felt I had to stop posting about it as a result.
I had heard this rumour. I'd describe it as an allegation really - since was presented as a concern about Malcolm's candidacy. But it was sent to the me as ECF Delegate, and as we all always say postings here are my personal views and are not the representative of, etc...
That said I don't think ECF Delegates should be keeping things secret from the organisations they represent. So if I have to share it with a large number of people, including some in the CSC camp, I think probably no harm to the candidates if I post things here.
I'll pause here for views... (hello Mike, Chris...)