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Stephen Westmoreland wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:27 pm

Apologies. I am wrong. It applies to Directors and those reporting into Directors.

This is correct.

Specified people reporting to directors, or anyone who might at some stage report to a director?

Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:01 am

My perception is that the people interested in ECF politics in the EJCOA are part of the most politically active nexus in recent years, if I include CSC. I don't think there is anything wrong with that in itself. But the extent to which they hold positions at the ECF is notable. We aren't talk about a group that is underrepresented and wants a say, but rather the largest group campaigning for control.

That's pretty much how it seems to me, too. I joined the EJCOA in response to the argument that coaches and junior organisers didn't have enough voice at the top table but not because I wanted the seating rearranged. I rather think I'm not alone in that.

Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:10 pm

I joined the EJCOA in response to the argument that coaches and junior organisers didn't have enough voice at the top table but not because I wanted the seating rearranged.

A tricky political question that Roger should probably ignore is "Which groups do you think have too much influence at the top table?"

Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:44 pm

Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:10 pm

I joined the EJCOA in response to the argument that coaches and junior organisers didn't have enough voice at the top table but not because I wanted the seating rearranged.

A tricky political question that Roger should probably ignore is "Which groups do you think have too much influence at the top table?"

LOL, I don't recall suggesting that any group [in fact, I don't recall mentioning "group"!] has too much influence. However, the ECF Board now consists of 13 people and, thinking back, I'd find it hard to recall experience of any board/committee of that size where there weren't divergent opinions on how things should be run. The effective ones were those that recognised that open warfare was a distraction from what they were meant to be doing.

Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:06 pm

However, the ECF Board now consists of 13 people ...

That would be unfortunate, as the Articles stipulate a maximum size of 12.

I think that you have miscounted (or counted an Alternate Director).

David Sedgwick wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:54 pm

Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:06 pm

However, the ECF Board now consists of 13 people ...

That would be unfortunate, as the Articles stipulate a maximum size of 12.

I think that you have miscounted (or counted an Alternate Director).

https://www.englishchess.org.uk/about/ecf-officials/ shows 12 directors plus 1 alternate.

You're both right - I'd included an Alternate Director but I don't feel that has too much bearing on my earlier thought.

There still times for Silvers members to make sure you voice is heard in the Meetings

i hope to be elected and as i told everyone, i never take my role for granted and have always done a joint report with my fellow rep, bar the Finance meeting as my fellow silver rep (and still he not sent a report after the meeting and telling people how he voted for you) did said on his blog "it was a pointless meeting"

The finances meeting is not pointless as it sorted out the budget and also what members will have to paid, but also i feel that some people do have issues with certain people in the board.

I have been accused by one person saying that i voted a certain way. my response is i always voted the way the members or if involve in a league/congress, the way that the league tell me

The deadline for voting is 25th July. I received an email from [email protected] on 7th July with a link to the voting form, and have just unearthed it with some effort. I hope that there will be a reminder before the polls close.

John Reyes wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:39 am

my fellow silver rep (and still he not sent a report after the meeting and telling people how he voted for you) did said on his blog "it was a pointless meeting"

Pointless or not, it might at least have been a bit shorter if your fellow rep had not decided it would be amusing to overwrite the link in the chat to the voting form with one to a Blackadder video. What can you do with people who behave like that?.

Which BlackAdder clip was it - Lord Flashheart?

NickFaulks wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:04 am

What can you do with people who behave like that?.

Not vote for them, perhaps.

NickFaulks wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:37 am

The deadline for voting is 25th July. I received an email from [email protected] on 7th July with a link to the voting form, and have just unearthed it with some effort. I hope that there will be a reminder before the polls close.

I have noticed a reminder on the ECF website, but I don't know how many people check that regularly.

https://www.englishchess.org.uk/direct- ... elections/

There has been no email reminder. Voting closes tonight.

David Sedgwick wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:20 pm

NickFaulks wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:04 am

What can you do with people who behave like that?.

Not vote for them, perhaps.

It would appear that advice was ignored

I gather the results will be published later