New ECF Rating Database

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am

The ECF rating database has been updated with ratings labelled Oct 1, but it is unclear if these are newly calculated as mine has stayed at 1998 since Aug 1

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Michael Farthing » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:48 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am
The ECF rating database has been updated with ratings labelled Oct 1, but it is unclear if these are newly calculated as mine has stayed at 1998 since Aug 1
What a very frustrating number to be 'locked down' on!

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by David Sedgwick » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:51 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am
The ECF rating database has been updated with ratings labelled Oct 1, but it is unclear if these are newly calculated as mine has stayed at 1998 since Aug 1
Your ECF rating will not have changed unless either:

1. You have played rated OTB chess under ECF auspices since August 1;

or:

2. You applied in advance to have your overseas games ECF rated.

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:38 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:51 am
2. You applied in advance to have your overseas games ECF rated.
I have heard that this option is not currently available.
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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:40 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:51 am
Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 am
The ECF rating database has been updated with ratings labelled Oct 1, but it is unclear if these are newly calculated as mine has stayed at 1998 since Aug 1
Your ECF rating will not have changed unless either:

1. You have played rated OTB chess under ECF auspices since August 1;

or:

2. You applied in advance to have your overseas games ECF rated.
Why will my rating not have changed if it covers the last 12 months?!

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by David Sedgwick » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:43 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:40 am
Why will my rating not have changed if it covers the last 12 months?!
Good point!

Note to self: Read up how the new system works before posting about it again.

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:45 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:43 am
Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:40 am
Why will my rating not have changed if it covers the last 12 months?!
Good point!

Note to self: Read up how the new system works before posting about it again.
If people followed that rule consistently, this forum would be a lot quieter.

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Ian Thompson » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:49 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:51 am
Your ECF rating will not have changed unless either:

1. You have played rated OTB chess under ECF auspices since August 1;
The list gives a clue about how much OTB chess is currently being played. There are 48 players whose rating has gone up. I don't think there's any way of determining how many players' ratings have gone down, or remained unchanged despite playing some games.

Without going through the details of every player, so the list below may not be complete, there has been OTB activity in:
  • Thanet
  • Huddersfield
  • Coulsdon Chess Fellowship
  • Bognor and Arun
  • Wanstead and Woodford
  • Isle of Man

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:59 am

Ian Thompson wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:49 am
David Sedgwick wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:51 am
Your ECF rating will not have changed unless either:

1. You have played rated OTB chess under ECF auspices since August 1;
The list gives a clue about how much OTB chess is currently being played. There are 48 players whose rating has gone up. I don't think there's any way of determining how many players' ratings have gone down, or remained unchanged despite playing some games.

Without going through the details of every player, so the list below may not be complete, there has been OTB activity in:
  • Thanet
  • Huddersfield
  • Coulsdon Chess Fellowship
  • Bognor and Arun
  • Wanstead and Woodford
  • Isle of Man
Yes, but since an ECF rating covers the previous 12 months, I would have thought most people's rating would have changed from Aug 1 to Sep 1 to Oct 1, not least because of the 2019 British

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Ian Thompson » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:13 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:59 am
Yes, but since an ECF rating covers the previous 12 months, I would have thought most people's rating would have changed from Aug 1 to Sep 1 to Oct 1, not least because of the 2019 British
The list is displaying cumulative change between the 1 July grade, converted to a rating, and 1 October rating.

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:20 am

Ian Thompson wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:13 am
Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:59 am
Yes, but since an ECF rating covers the previous 12 months, I would have thought most people's rating would have changed from Aug 1 to Sep 1 to Oct 1, not least because of the 2019 British
The list is displaying cumulative change between the 1 July grade, converted to a rating, and 1 October rating.
I find it hard to believe my rating stayed at exactly 1998 since from Jul 1 to Sep 30 I played at Bridlington (maybe not ECF graded), Telford, the British, Northumbria 'Paignton', Bradford and Crewe as well as various league games.

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:34 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:40 am
Why will my rating not have changed if it covers the last 12 months?!
I thought they were using an Elo method from now on. So like the FIDE International ratings, they only change when rated games are reported. I'm frozen at 2058 which is a conversion from 181.

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Re: New ECF Rating Database

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:39 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:34 am
Tim Spanton wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:40 am
Why will my rating not have changed if it covers the last 12 months?!
I thought they were using an Elo method from now on. So like the FIDE International ratings, they only change when rated games are reported. I'm frozen at 2058 which is a conversion from 181.
Aaah, that sounds a likely explanation

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