Direct Members’ Representatives election

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Roger Lancaster
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Roger Lancaster » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:30 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:10 pm
Indeed, an observation that does not only apply to elections in the chess world :twisted:
LOL, the temptation to point that out was yet another which I found hard to resist. :D

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:07 pm

"I've heard it asked "Do they understand what they're voting for?" and, on occasion, have had to resist the temptation to observe that - on that point - the speaker might usefully look in the mirror."

Not talking about chess obviously, but I often feel that the very fact that people are eager to stand for political office is strong evidence that they should be disqualified from doing so...

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:25 pm

Mike Gunn wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:38 pm
Yes juniors can vote in these elections. I have some reservations about this but discovered I was in a minority when the point was discussed on the governance committee or board.
I'm sorry but what possible objection could there be to junior members having the same voting rights as adult members. It's true that for younger juniors the vote might be exercised on their behalf but parents are an important interest group within junior chess. And for older junior players the decisions the board makes affects them as much as any other player.

There may be an argument for separate representatives for junior members (on the grounds that junior membership sits slightly apart) and I would be curious to know if the ECF byelaws or company law prevent a minor from actually holding that role.
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Mike Gunn
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Mike Gunn » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:40 pm

Juniors could perhaps be easily influenced by others to vote. A few years back the vote for ECF Player of the Year had to be abandoned because school pupils voted en masse for one particular candidate. If parents want to influence what the ECF does then they should join under their own name and not hide behind their child when voting.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 pm

Mike Gunn wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:40 pm
Juniors could perhaps be easily influenced by others to vote. A few years back the vote for ECF Player of the Year had to be abandoned because school pupils voted en masse for one particular candidate. If parents want to influence what the ECF does then they should join under their own name and not hide behind their child when voting.
Unfortunately that is a permanent problem with democracy - who knows, if only adults in America could vote perhaps Donald Trump wouldn't be President!

I'm sorry to say I strongly disagree and in any case we hold junior players accountable for their behaviours while playing chess. In any case junior players are only voting for an individual to cast votes on their behalf and not directly voting on any motion.
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Nick Grey » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:16 pm

Paid and voted in one phone call. Great service.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Nick Grey » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm

Who won.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:42 am

Willmoth, unfortunately
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:54 am

Nick Grey wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
Who won.
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/result- ... entatives/

The successful candidates were –

Gold — Lorin d’Costa and Rob Willmoth
Silver — John Reyes and Tim Wall
Bronze — Aga Milewska and Chris Skulte

These representatives come into office immediately.

— Michael Farthing, Chair of Council

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Michael Farthing » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:49 pm

Now that the election is completed I will be making a statement here about the voting arrangements. However, I am consulting others that have been involved so I'm not sure when that will happen.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by John Reyes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:38 pm

just wanted to say thanks you to all the Silver members and i hope that i can carry on supported the Silver members and i will always put the members forward and if any silver members have any motions that they would like to proposal, please let me know and the new Silver rep which is now Tim Wall, as we should be guided by all the silver members on how you want us to vote for you
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:48 pm

Well done John, glad to see you were re-elected

So, the result was the 6 people that Tim wanted?
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Nick Grey » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 pm

Is it too much to ask for the counts?

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by John Reyes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:35 pm

Nick Grey wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 pm
Is it too much to ask for the counts?
The ECF will Published it in due course
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Tim Spanton » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:00 pm

John Reyes wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:35 pm
Nick Grey wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 pm
Is it too much to ask for the counts?
The ECF will Published it in due course
In due course? For most elections that means when the winners are announced.

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