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Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:18 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Nick Ivell wrote:
Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:26 pm
Mention of Nottingham 1936 on Corrie. Amazing!
Yes, was genuinely surprised to hear that. Was the chess "game" any more realistic than usual?

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:35 am
by Nick Ivell
I didn't follow the game.

I was also amazed to hear the name of Emmanuel Lasker uttered; surely a first in the history of soaps?

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:08 am
by Mick Norris
Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:18 pm
Nick Ivell wrote:
Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:26 pm
Mention of Nottingham 1936 on Corrie. Amazing!
Yes, was genuinely surprised to hear that. Was the chess "game" any more realistic than usual?
The chess games in Corrie are all actual games, or minor adaptations of actual games

That's the advantage of having an ex MCF President on set having prepared them

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:16 am
by Nick Ivell
You always get the players saying check, which no serious player ever does, but this is excusable for the dramatic effect.

Chess has to be made dramatic somehow!

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:07 am
by Mick Norris
I never watch Corrie, but I assume the players aren't exactly supposed to be serious; enthusiastic maybe

From what Matthew told me, I wasn't expecting the chess to appear until New Year's Day; he speaks highly of how friendly the cast are

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:34 pm
by Tim Spanton
Nick Ivell wrote:
Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:16 am
You always get the players saying check, which no serious player ever does, but this is excusable for the dramatic effect.

Chess has to be made dramatic somehow!
I don't know how "serious" some of my opponents are, but I hear check announced in tournament games, usually when the checker thinks the move is particularly strong

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:17 pm
by Nick Ivell
Not a good practical move.

By keeping silent, we may induce an unwary opponent into an illegal, losing move.

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:49 pm
by Jonathan Rogers
Going back a while, wasn't one of the characters in Corrie a big fan of Mickey Adams, even naming some puppet or pet after him?

All credit to the Manchester folk for facilitating this.

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:44 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Nick Ivell wrote:
Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:17 pm
Not a good practical move.

By keeping silent, we may induce an unwary opponent into an illegal, losing move.
Though this only actually applies in quick chess?

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:49 pm
by Nick Ivell
Proper chess too. You can invoke the touch move rule if the opponent has missed the check. This can lead to ruinous material loss.

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:00 pm
by Paul Habershon
Nick Ivell wrote:
Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:49 pm
Proper chess too. You can invoke the touch move rule if the opponent has missed the check. This can lead to ruinous material loss.
I actually benefited from this in a county match on November 7th. My opponent did not notice a discovered check but made a rook move. Unfortunately for him the rook could also block the check with the aforementioned ruinous material loss. He didn't at first seem to realise that the rook move was compulsory and I felt rather embarrassed by insisting on it.

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:07 pm
by Nick Ivell
Ah, discovered check is a sneaky one. You definitely don't want to announce that!

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:48 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Nick Ivell wrote:
Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:49 pm
Proper chess too. You can invoke the touch move rule if the opponent has missed the check. This can lead to ruinous material loss.
Of course, I was thinking of *automatically* losing.

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:36 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
"I felt rather embarrassed by insisting on it."

Don't be - it's his fault for not concentrating!

Re: Media comments on chess

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:37 pm
by JustinHorton
Something called The Chessboard is on Radio Three right now - I've missed the start so I'll maybe catch up with it tomorrow. I suspect though from the information given that, give or take Lewis Carroll, the theme may be "black and white" in various iterations rather than chess as such. However I am advised that early on somebody promises us that we will "zigzag like a knight, soar like a bishop". Which is promising.