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How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:54 pm
by Mark Howitt
How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
https://ratings.fide.com/profile/4152956
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:02 pm
by Ian Jamieson
And will he have to pay for a Gold membership?
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:03 pm
by Mark Howitt
Yeah I think the ECF would be after his gooooooooooooold....
But wouldn't they have to pay a TRANSFER FEE for such a player...
It shouldn't be allowed.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:09 pm
by MJMcCready
Isn't he the player GM Adams was meant to play a celebrity match against at last month's chessfest? This suggests he maybe based in England. Perhaps he likes the place?
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:20 pm
by Mark Howitt
Needs an official reasoning...
Because obvs he's not born in England, hasn't played much/any chess in England lately... and it would need a tranfer fee??
Surreal... shouldn't be allowed to take a true English place in team events.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:22 pm
by MJMcCready
He wouldn't be the first non-Englishman to play for England if he was selected. Murray Chandler springs to mind as does Mir Sultan Khan.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:44 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Mark Howitt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:20 pm
Surreal... shouldn't be allowed to take a true English place in team events.
Why not? It's not as if England has a surfeit of 2700 plus players.
Going back over thirty years, Mihai Suba was an asylum seeker and later played in the European Championship for the England team.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:45 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Do you have to be affiliated with the ECF to appear in the rating list? Wasn't aware that was the case, if so.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:52 pm
by David Shepherd
There is a duplicate thread on this - "New number one England player"
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:53 pm
by MJMcCready
Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:44 pm
Mark Howitt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:20 pm
Surreal... shouldn't be allowed to take a true English place in team events.
Why not? It's not as if England has a surfeit of 2700 plus players.
Going back over thirty years, Mihai Suba was an asylum seeker and later played in the European Championship for the England team.
We haven't got any now, he would be the only one.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:57 pm
by Mark Howitt
Would have to know legalities of a Russian (not living in Eng before) being in Eng too... not generally allowed these days...
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:17 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Mark Howitt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:03 pm
But wouldn't they have to pay a TRANSFER FEE for such a player...
Probably not if he's transferring from FID, as I suspect a lot of Russians currently are.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:31 pm
by LawrenceCooper
IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:17 pm
Mark Howitt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:03 pm
But wouldn't they have to pay a TRANSFER FEE for such a player...
Probably not if he's transferring from FID, as I suspect a lot of Russians currently are.
From the FIDE transfers page
https://ratings.fide.com/transfers.phtml
4152956 Vitiugov, Nikita ENG RUS 2023-08-29 2023-08-28
Last FIDE event: 2022 FIDE Grand Prix 2. POOL B
Citizenship RUS
Date of eligibility
to participate in the FIDE events under the new flag 2023-08-30
Transfer fee NA
Date starting from which a player
can represent the new federation fee free 2023-08-30
(decision on team competitions pending)
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:35 pm
by MJMcCready
Will bolster our chances for the next Olympiad then.
Re: How Come This Player Has Joined English Fed?
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:42 pm
by Djuna Tree
Welcome Nikita! He joins a long list of players who have changed federations after a warmonger's actions in their country of origin. I am proud to accept such players as fellow nationals and teammates.