FIDE Dress Code

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Jon Tait
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FIDE Dress Code

Post by Jon Tait » Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:22 pm

only just seen this... (via Susan Polgar)

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searching on here, seemingly it's not news, but all the same... wtf?!? :roll:
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:29 pm

This applies to all FIDE events, or what?
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by Brian Egdell » Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:12 pm

Separate dress codes for women and men is outdated and offensive because not everyone falls into one of those two categories.

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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:16 pm

"Any request to wear national or traditional dress shall be approved by FIDE supervisor."

In other words, FIDE supervisor must give approval!

I think the dress code was only intended for elite events.

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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by Jon Tait » Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:17 pm

Brian Egdell wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:12 pm
Separate dress codes for women and men is outdated and offensive because not everyone falls into one of those two categories.
Yes.

And also because gendered dress codes are oppressive to everyone.
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by Joey Stewart » Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:39 pm

It seems excessively complex, they should just say suit and tie for everyone - problem solved for men, women and all that fall between.

Not that a rule like this will have any impact to us on the forums anyway - no UK arbiter is ever going to want the hassle of enforcing it at the level of event we play at.
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:41 pm

Brian Egdell wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:12 pm
Separate dress codes for women and men is outdated and offensive because not everyone falls into one of those two categories.
In a tournament restricted to women you might think that they do.
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by John Upham » Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:54 pm

Jon Tait wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:17 pm
And also because gendered dress codes are oppressive to everyone.

Please omit myself from your list of "everyone". I find it oppressive to be included.

Who does everyone include?
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by Jon Tait » Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:25 pm

John Upham wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:54 pm
Please omit myself from your list of "everyone". I find it oppressive to be included.

Who does everyone include?
Okay, "potentially everyone", if you're going to be dick about it.
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by John Upham » Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:47 pm

Jon Tait wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:25 pm
John Upham wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:54 pm
Please omit myself from your list of "everyone". I find it oppressive to be included.

Who does everyone include?
Okay, "potentially everyone", if you're going to be dick about it.
I find it oppressive that it is assumed that my opinion is the same as everyone else's.

In some cases it might well be but generically it is not.

I've not consulted Richard.
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by John Sellen » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:38 pm

I'm playing in the Hampshire weekend congress this week

I'm searching my wardrobe for
" classic suite shoes "
" dark coloured pants "
and a "dark cardigan with buttons " !!

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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:52 pm

John Upham wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:47 pm
I find it oppressive that it is assumed that my opinion is the same as everyone else's.
It's not actually "oppressive" is it though
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by MJMcCready » Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:44 pm

What about if you are following the dress code but stepped in dogs do-do and have got s**t all over your shoes, is that allowed?

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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by John Upham » Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm

John Sellen wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:38 pm
I'm playing in the Hampshire weekend congress this week

" dark coloured pants "
I trust that these will not be visible during play?

I meant to ask if the organisers deliberately chose a 4NCL weekend for their event?
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Re: FIDE Dress Code

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:53 am

Joey Stewart wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:39 pm
Not that a rule like this will have any impact to us on the forums anyway
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