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As we've been specifically discussing the move 1 h4 in the context of self-described trolling, and of subsequent moves that can't possibly be thought of as good, I think we were past that point before we started.
Methinks this is assigning anonymous anonymous fast blitz on the internet a higher level of dignity than it possesses.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:10 pmWhen you play a game of chess, or anything else, you're not just seeking to win the game, you're seeking to have a good game. This goes especially if it's a friendly and it implies both players doing their best and showing rspect to their opponent. If you played a game of, say, tennis or snooker, and youur opponent just messed about, deliberately playing bad shots just to try and prove they could win anyway, you might well go on to win but you probably would not feel you had enjoyed the experience and you would probably not want to play the same opponent again.
Conversely, if you set out to annoy people why complain if they get annoyed?Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:13 amMethinks this is assigning anonymous anonymous fast blitz on the internet a higher level of dignity than it possesses.
I've been on an arbiting team that watched that happen in an OTB game with increments. Fortunately, it was on a live board, so we could step in after 75 moves of this nonsense.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:13 amOn the other end of the game - I had a match recently where towards the end of a level game someone tried to flag me on K+R vs K+R. Part and parcel of bullet, a bit unclassy in 3+0, but this was 3+2 - and I genuinely didn't (and don't) understand what the intent was. With an increment 15 seconds is ages.
I don't think I am doing either. I only play in the strictly anonymous pool when I am in the mood for nonsense, so I play for my own enjoyment. If the opponent objects and aborts the game, I'm not offended.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:18 amConversely, if you set out to annoy people why complain if they get annoyed?Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:13 amMethinks this is assigning anonymous anonymous fast blitz on the internet a higher level of dignity than it possesses.
I hope the increment wasn't 30 seconds...kids I presume.IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:25 amI've been on an arbiting team that watched that happen in an OTB game with increments. Fortunately, it was on a live board, so we could step in after 75 moves of this nonsense.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:13 amOn the other end of the game - I had a match recently where towards the end of a level game someone tried to flag me on K+R vs K+R. Part and parcel of bullet, a bit unclassy in 3+0, but this was 3+2 - and I genuinely didn't (and don't) understand what the intent was. With an increment 15 seconds is ages.
10 seconds, and no, the person playing for the win wasn't a junior. (They were, in fact, eligible for age-restricted tournaments at the other end of the scale.)Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:14 amI hope the increment wasn't 30 seconds...kids I presume.IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:25 amI've been on an arbiting team that watched that happen in an OTB game with increments. Fortunately, it was on a live board, so we could step in after 75 moves of this nonsense.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:13 amOn the other end of the game - I had a match recently where towards the end of a level game someone tried to flag me on K+R vs K+R. Part and parcel of bullet, a bit unclassy in 3+0, but this was 3+2 - and I genuinely didn't (and don't) understand what the intent was. With an increment 15 seconds is ages.
Presumably you deign to play against 1 a3, 1 c3, 1 b4 and 1 h3? Are 1 f3 and 1 g4 borderline?JustinHorton wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:14 pmAs we've been specifically discussing the move 1 h4 in the context of self-described trolling, and of subsequent moves that can't possibly be thought of as good, I think we were past that point before we started.
(Anyway, if anybody plays 1 h4 against me, that game's getting aborted, end of story.)
That would probably get you blocked thoughJonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:26 amI know what to play against Justin at blitz now, if only I could know when I am playing him (1 d4. then 2 h4)
That I agree with. similarly I have blocked people who only seem to try to win on time, including playing on K + R v K + R. I do value (roughly) fair conclusions, within the admittedly distorted world of bullet where it is a given that you might need actually to deliver mate on time. But this is just all so far removed from playing 1.h4, in my view ...JustinHorton wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:09 amAn example. I just played a game, it lasted fourteen moves, ended with a check. All White's moves were pawn moves, because, it transpires, my opponent was trying to see how many pawn moves they can make in a row.
Ho ho very amusing, but how amusing is that for the opponent, in this instance me? They've had a laugh - I've had my time wasted. And it seems to me that that's a very childish way to approach a game of chess, or come to that anything else - all that matters is whether I have a laugh, never mind if I annoy anybody else.
oh you dodge the curious questions. what are the other first moves which would make you abort?JustinHorton wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:28 amThat would probably get you blocked thoughJonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:26 amI know what to play against Justin at blitz now, if only I could know when I am playing him (1 d4. then 2 h4)
I thought you'd dodge the questionJustinHorton wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:38 amI think maybe people shouldn't be seeking to see exactly how much they can get away with: the idea is not to go out with that kind of head on.
