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(I ought to know these details but shamefully I don't.)

Which OTB English events (apart from 4NCL) from 2010 onwards have resulted in norms being awarded to English players?

I am thinking of WIM, WGM, IM and GM norms.

Thank-you for your help.

You can see English norm recipients here https://ratings.fide.com/titles_page.phtml

So this will give you a starting point if you want to trawl through

You can also look up rated tournaments here

https://ratings.fide.com/rated_tourname ... 2010-07-01

Matthew Turner wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:59 am

You can see English norm recipients here https://ratings.fide.com/titles_page.phtml

So this will give you a starting point if you want to trawl through

Many thanks Matthew. My homework for the next few hours!

John Upham wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:53 am

(I ought to know these details but shamefully I don't.)

Which OTB English events (apart from 4NCL) from 2010 onwards have resulted in norms being awarded to English players?

I am thinking of WIM, WGM, IM and GM norms.

Thank-you for your help.

Hi John,

These are the ones that I organised:

2nd Big Slick International 2011:

https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=59800

https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=59801


3rd Big Slick International 2013:

https://ratings.fide.com/tournament_rep ... nt16=68385

https://ratings.fide.com/tournament_rep ... nt16=68386

Women's all-play-all tournaments 2009-2013:

London Chess Classic Women's International 2009: http://www.londonchessclassic.com/2009/ ... tional.htm

e2e4.org.uk Uxbridge Womens's International 2010: https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=52532

London Chess Classic Women's International 2010: http://www.londonchessclassic.com/2010/ ... tional.htm
https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=55172

London Chess Classic Women's International 2011: https://ratings.fide.com/tournament_rep ... nt16=63579

London Chess Classic Women's International 2012: http://www.classic.livechess.co.uk/2012 ... index.html

London Chess Classic Women's International 2013: http://www.londonchessclassic.com/2013/ ... l_2013.htm
https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=85828

Big Slick 2013 had norms for Yang-Fan and Alan Merry. I can't immediately think of other English norms (I know there were non English).

Most of the British Championships over that period have had title norms, though I can't remember all of them off the top of my head.

IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:04 pm

Most of the British Championships over that period have had title norms, though I can't remember all of them off the top of my head.

Jack,

Did you mean that norms were available or that norms were obtained or both?

Both. (The most recent was Charlie Storey's second IM norm in 2019.)

IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:07 pm

Both. (The most recent was Charlie Storey's second IM norm in 2019.)

Thanks. My intention is to document when and from what events norms were obtained.

I then intend to do the same for the 1970 - 1980 period and then compare that period with 2010 to the present.

Hopefully we can learn something from this analysis.

John Upham wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:27 pm

I then intend to do the same for the 1970 - 1980 period and then compare that period with 2010 to the present.

Hopefully we can learn something from this analysis.

Particularly in the early 1970s, there were few Norm opportunities, despite arguably there being more strong players in sixth form, university and post graduate age ranges who would be among the prime norm seekers.

John Upham wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:27 pm

I then intend to do the same for the 1970 - 1980 period and then compare that period with 2010 to the present.

I'm not sure how much of a comparison is possible. I believe only 2 norms were needed then compared to the three now. So even if norms were as frequent then, fewer would be required/obtained.

Also there were a lot more unrated players (though you were allowed two of those in a norm, compared to one now) who would prevent norms being possible.
Note: I am simplifying the norm requirements in the above statement rather than bore people with rating floors etc.