Under Statement?

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:14 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:12 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
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Poor Ray. Poor, denigrated Ray.
I expect that he will survive.
Oh I should hope so. But it would be helpful and gratifying if the habit of pretending he's being picked on were to expire.
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Re: Under Statement?

Post by John Townsend » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:51 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
John, I was indeed a bit unfair.

It appeared to me that the answer to your question was to be found in Keene's article and I jumped to the conclusion that you had not read it. I apologise if that was not correct.

I accept that "automatic denigration" is something which I should have attributed to others, not to you.
Mr. Sedgwick,

If the answer to my question is "to be found in Keene's article", then I would appreciate being told where.

So far my enquiry has met with more heat than light.

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:54 pm

John Townsend wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:51 pm
David Sedgwick wrote:
John, I was indeed a bit unfair.

It appeared to me that the answer to your question was to be found in Keene's article and I jumped to the conclusion that you had not read it. I apologise if that was not correct.

I accept that "automatic denigration" is something which I should have attributed to others, not to you.
Mr. Sedgwick,

If the answer to my question is "to be found in Keene's article", then I would appreciate being told where.

So far my enquiry has met with more heat than light.
In my original post, I quoted what I thought was an answer to your query.

I apologise for any misunderstanding and for any offence caused.

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by O.G. Urcan » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:22 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:01 pm
I am indebted to leading chess historian Richard Eales
Is he married to your sister, Ray, you don't mention it here
In 2014 I wrote this brief note: https://sgchess.net/2014/10/09/1276-more-cronyism.

On page 62 of Fifty Shades of Ray, Raymond Keene refers categorically to "the world's leading chess historian Richard Eales", without mentioning that Eales is his brother-in-law.

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by John Upham » Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:54 am

O.G. Urcan wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:22 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:01 pm
I am indebted to leading chess historian Richard Eales
Is he married to your sister, Ray, you don't mention it here
In 2014 I wrote this brief note: https://sgchess.net/2014/10/09/1276-more-cronyism.

On page 62 of Fifty Shades of Ray, Raymond Keene refers categorically to "the world's leading chess historian Richard Eales", without mentioning that Eales is his brother-in-law.

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What accolades does Ray reserve for

Julian Simpole
Barry Martin

I wonder?

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by O.G. Urcan » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:14 pm

This is the publication information in Fifty Shades of Ray:
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Re: Under Statement?

Post by John Upham » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:50 pm

Zeticula Ltd. would appear to be a one person (Stuart Johnston) operation located at

11 Swaledale Road, Sheffield, England, S7 2BY

The other eight persons have resigned and it is regarded as a micro-entity.

See https://www.bookdepository.com/publishers/Zeticula-Ltd for their back catalogue.

I wasn't aware that they had published

https://www.bookdepository.com/World-Ch ... 16&sr=1-25

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:02 pm

Yeah I saw that about Zeticula. Johnston's not known to me, though Googling his name with terms like "English chess" brought up a few results. But it's a common enough name.

John Upham wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:54 am
Following the appalling GMRDKOBE book that Malcolm famously removed from the shelves
Perhaps more accurately, Malcolm appeared to fall out with Ray so suddenly noticed what he had miraculously been able to overlook previously, declared Ray persona non grata and had one of his sidekicks write up for Chess various of Ray's misdeeds that everybody else had read about in various places some time before.

It's this kind of persistent insult to the intelligence that makes English chess what it is.
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Re: Under Statement?

Post by O.G. Urcan » Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:46 am

John Upham wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:50 pm
Zeticula Ltd. would appear to be a one person (Stuart Johnson) operation located at

11 Swaledale Road, Sheffield, England, S7 2BY
....
Johnston, not Johnson.

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Re: Under Statement?

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:25 pm

See above.

I passed through Rose Street today on my way to 2nd hand book shop.

Took a picture of 196 Rose Street. (confirmed it by going in and asking is this was 196 - 'Yes')

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