Putting pieces back on their starting squares in the opening

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Re: Putting pieces back on their starting squares in the opening

Post by Reg Clucas » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:40 pm

Not quite the same thing - undeveloping a knight to the other knight's starting square. This appeared in the December issue of Chess magazine.

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Re: Putting pieces back on their starting squares in the opening

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:40 am

Kevin O'Rourke wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:45 pm
I seem to have a mental block and a dislike to put a piece back on its starting square after moving it.

I’ve seen it in grandmaster games, things like Bf8 ....
Ivanchuk, as Black once beat Kasparov with

1 e4 e6, 2 d4 d5, 3 Nc3 Bb4, 4 e5 b6, 5 a3 Bf8


Which I imagine amused Gazza not one bit.

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Re: Putting pieces back on their starting squares in the opening

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:03 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:40 am
Ivanchuk, as Black once beat Kasparov with

1 e4 e6, 2 d4 d5, 3 Nc3 Bb4, 4 e5 b6, 5 a3 Bf8


Which I imagine amused Gazza not one bit.
It's an old Petrosian line, so he should have known it.

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Re: Putting pieces back on their starting squares in the opening

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:19 pm

And here we see Kasparov moving a piece back to its original square, against Petrosian. And losing.
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Re: Putting pieces back on their starting squares in the opening

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:47 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:03 pm

It's an old Petrosian line, so he should have known it.
Yes and I'm sure he did.




Nearly 10 years ago I reached this position as Black against John Hickman at Sunningdale. I remember not fancying ... Bd7 too much (not sure why now) and eventually coming to the idea of ... Bc8. Initially I wasn't even going to look at it properly - as per the OP's original point, it just felt too silly - but eventually I did and couldn't see anything wrong with it. So I played it.

HIARCS seems to think Black's doing well after 10 ... Bc8. Mind you, it doesn't mind ... Bd7 either.

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