(Chess) Life Returning To Normal

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:07 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:58 pm

Get your jabs.
That at least is something I would hope everyone here could agree on.

(still waiting for mine btw)
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:13 pm

Adam,
Sure there are more ridiculous ideas and theories doing the rounds on social media, but it is the thin end of the wedge, if we allow a lecturer to endorse using a treatment recommended on Facebook without comment then it is unsurprising that people will be drawn to these more outlandish theories

When Frederic Friedel recommended taking Vitamin D3

https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-coron ... t-on-chess

It was described as stupid irresponsible quackery by Justin Horton

For medical advice please consult medical experts as Irina Krush did

Like you, I hope everyone will get their jabs

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Reg Clucas » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:27 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:08 pm
Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:57 am
Wadih Khoury wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:42 am
More seriously, given the profile of the people living at the venue, I wouldn't be surprised if they and their carers will all be vaccinated (including second dose) in the next couple of months. If they are indeed vaccinated, a chess tournament will present no risk to them.
That's not correct because the vaccine isn't 100% effective at preventing someone catching coronavirus.
It is close to 100% as far as serious illness/death is concerned.

Arguably it should be up to individuals to decide whether they think the small remaining risk is worth it or not.
No it shouldn't, when what is being discussed is the risk to individuals living at the venue (as per Wadih's post)

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:03 am
Strange he didn't report taking a Covid test or visiting a doctor at any point in his account.
Visiting or at least consulting a doctor seems implied by the last paragraph.
I’m waiting for a referral to a lung specialist and to a long covid clinic and I hope some progress will emerge from that.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by John McKenna » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:33 pm

Not sure if I should welcome GM Matt T to cellblock-H(orton) he might be accused of getting into the wrong crowd.

Some people here need to remember this -

"Pluralism as a political philosophy is the recognition and affirmation of diversity within a political body, which is seen to permit the peaceful coexistence of different interests, convictions, and lifestyles..."

There is a tendency for those people to support outward diversity, the way people look, but when it comes to inward diversity they cannot stand to see it expressed in public.

Basically, either you must agree with them or you'll be sent to Coventry (not a bad place to be last week as it was the city with the most people jabbed per pop.)
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:57 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:51 pm
Simon Rogers wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:02 pm
It was announced on North West News earlier that the Isle of Man is to go straight into a full Lockdown from 00:01 Thursday.
And out again, which does show what can be done

Borders still closed of course
And back in lockdown from tonight for 3 weeks :(
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Simon Rogers » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:06 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:57 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:51 pm
Simon Rogers wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:02 pm
It was announced on North West News earlier that the Isle of Man is to go straight into a full Lockdown from 00:01 Thursday.
And out again, which does show what can be done

Borders still closed of course
And back in lockdown from tonight for 3 weeks :(
Yeah saw it on North West News, not good, Mick.
The government found a cluster of 50 cases possibly transmitted originally from someone who worked on the IOM Ferry.
Sad news about the Liverpool FC legend Ian St.John passing away.
I also spotted on the Yorkshire Chess Association website a couple of days ago that the Hull Rapidplay postponed until April, has been cancelled.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:08 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:29 pm
Visiting or at least consulting a doctor seems implied by the last paragraph.
I’m waiting for a referral to a lung specialist and to a long covid clinic and I hope some progress will emerge from that.
Indeed. And it's also possible that an account of somebody's symptoms doesn't entail an account of all their encounters with medical professionals. But it doesn't take a close reading to think of either of these things, it just entails an appreciation that it's better to think before repeatedly running off at the mouth at the expense of the recently deceased.

(It should also be obvious that taking an over-the-counter remedy to alleviate symptoms is not remotely the same thing as a quack cure, but really what is the point sometimes.)
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm

Simon Rogers wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:06 pm
Yeah saw it on North West News, not good, Mick.
The government found a cluster of 50 cases possibly transmitted originally from someone who worked on the IOM Ferry.
Sad news about the Liverpool FC legend Ian St.John passing away.
I also spotted on the Yorkshire Chess Association website a couple of days ago that the Hull Rapidplay postponed until April, has been cancelled.
Yes, very sad news about Ian St John, although not unexpected
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Geoff Chandler » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 pm

Hi Boys,

I had this thing at the start of last year, my whole work place caught it, there were sadly fatalities
and since then a few more friends have passed away. (one alarmingly a young 36)

For months afterwards I had the tickly lungs, sudden splitting headaches.
also, for first time in my life one of these panic attacks, for someone who has been healthy
all their life these things are pretty scary. You do not know what is going on.

In early September felt unwell, had test, negative.
A few days later, everything normal, felt faint, world spun, woke up in ambulance.
(Luckily I passed out in a posh part of town and my wallet etc was still on me!)

Tested, negative. scanned, blood taken, ex-rayed...the whole works.
Let out of hospital next day told it was probably effect of long covid.

Everything fine till November when suddenly drained of energy, lifeless and dreary. Tested-negative.
Still feel that way though I have a few cherished good days every now and then. Today appears to be a good day.

Luckily the articles I write for CHESS I did in a batch of four or five before this 'I can't be bothered' feeling hit me.
Usually I can knock off two articles, a blog, post here, walk the dog and play with the cat for ½ an hour all before noon.
I just feel right out of it. (maybe an age thing, 69) but all very sudden and it's pissing me off.

Had jag late Feb. Felt awful for four days, really bad, like flu but worse, told this is a good sign
and to take a paracetamol (something I have never taken in my life.)

Still get the lung tickle, the 30 second axe hitting headache, occasional panic attack, these I can put up with,
it's the gloomy I cannot be arsed feeling I cannot shake off, never had anything like this before.

It's not depression, that does not last for a few days, go away, come back, go away, come back...all in one week.

Unless I have Covid Depression. That's a new one!
(you saw it here first boys, I'm going to have a medical condition named after me!)

I never take the flu jag and I don't think I be will be taking my 2nd jag. (or 3rd or 4th).

The government should spread the rumour that the vaccine acts like Viagra. That will bring in the men
- and it also takes fat off the bum - you will have to fight the women away with flame throwers.

(I still chuckle at something Elisabeth Paehtz wrote at ChessBase - Covid and lock in has shrunk her clothes...think about it.)

I cannot waste anymore of this rare good day. Off to do articles, blogs, walk dog, play jungle traps with the cat
and tell the wife about this jag and fat off the bum rumour. (she won't believe the Viagra one.)

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:13 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:08 pm

(It should also be obvious that taking an over-the-counter remedy to alleviate symptoms is not remotely the same thing as a quack cure, but really what is the point sometimes.)
Antihistamines are a treatment for allergies, not a remedy for Long Covid. Taking them on the advice of a Facebook page is not a sensible thing to do.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 pm

Vitamin D3, however. Everyone should be taking their maximum daily dose.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:42 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 pm
Vitamin D3, however. Everyone should be taking their maximum daily dose.
Definitely, although don't expect it to be advertised. You can't make serious money out of that.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:00 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:07 pm
Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:58 pm
Get your jabs.
That at least is something I would hope everyone here could agree on.

(still waiting for mine btw)
Actually not, I've ducked mine. I suppose I shall have to have it at some point, when it means that the Government allows me to do something that is otherwise forbidden ( eg leave their country ), but for now I'm happy to let my jab go to someone who is really keen to get it. You, perhaps?

In the opinion of our Queen, this makes me a selfish person. In my opinion, this suggests she is finally losing the plot.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:14 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:50 pm
Vitamin D3, however. Everyone should be taking their maximum daily dose.
I hope they're taking the NHS recommended dose, unless advised otherwise by their doctor.

I hope they're not overdosing on these, or possibly worse, judging by the reviews.

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