(Chess) Life Returning To Normal

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:11 am

Matt Bridgeman wrote:
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Ian Thompson wrote:
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It is close to 100% as far as serious illness/death is concerned.
But what's the risk of suffering from long term effects that shorten life expectancy or the quality of life, particularly if the patient isn't in the best of health to start with?
Yes that's definitely a big one. Long Covid is still not being discussed very much. The potential damage it can unleash on the lungs is quite frightening.
This is an account of what it's like to contract and live with long covid. It was written a couple of months ago, at which time it looked like the author was at any rate out of danger. He wasn't: he died five weeks later.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:03 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:11 am
Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pm
Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:26 pm

But what's the risk of suffering from long term effects that shorten life expectancy or the quality of life, particularly if the patient isn't in the best of health to start with?
Yes that's definitely a big one. Long Covid is still not being discussed very much. The potential damage it can unleash on the lungs is quite frightening.
This is an account of what it's like to contract and live with long covid. It was written a couple of months ago, at which time it looked like the author was at any rate out of danger. He wasn't: he died five weeks later.
Strange he didn't report taking a Covid test or visiting a doctor at any point in his account.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:13 am

Scotland’s chief medical officer said a week ago it was too early to know if the vaccines would have any impact on long covid.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ ... id-3143016

The only other information I can see so far is that there are some anecdotal accounts this week in the press that taking the vaccine provides a relief of symptoms in some long covid sufferers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tigue.html

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Post by Mick Norris » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:05 am

There's quite a lot of information about e.g. the NHS have produced the following list:

British Islamic Medical Association
COVID-19 Vaccine Hub - Myths https://britishima.org/operation-vaccin ... ths/#MHAR1
Royal Society of Medicine COVID-19 series:
Episode 60 - The race to vaccinate a country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh4mRRcDSC8&t=21s
Zoe COVID-19 symptom study
COVID-19 vaccines – what we know so far https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-va ... acy-safety
Specialist Pharmacy Service
COVID-19 Vaccines https://www.sps.nhs.uk/home/covid-19-vaccines/
COVID-19 Vaccine for pts on Systemic anti-cancer therapy (SACT): Clinician FAQs and Guidance https://www.theacp.org.uk/news/18-jan-2 ... nistration
British Society for Immunology
Connect on Coronavirus: public engagement resources https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... -resources
COVID-19 vaccination programme Information for healthcare practitioners https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 1_v3.3.pdf
Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY
COVID-19 Vaccine Deep Dive: Safety, Immunity, RNA Production. Prof Shane Crotty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK0C5tFHze8
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 am

Matthew Turner wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:03 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:11 am
Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pm


Yes that's definitely a big one. Long Covid is still not being discussed very much. The potential damage it can unleash on the lungs is quite frightening.
This is an account of what it's like to contract and live with long covid. It was written a couple of months ago, at which time it looked like the author was at any rate out of danger. He wasn't: he died five weeks later.
Strange he didn't report taking a Covid test or visiting a doctor at any point in his account.
I am not getting your point here
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:12 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 am
Matthew Turner wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:03 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:11 am


This is an account of what it's like to contract and live with long covid. It was written a couple of months ago, at which time it looked like the author was at any rate out of danger. He wasn't: he died five weeks later.
Strange he didn't report taking a Covid test or visiting a doctor at any point in his account.
I am not getting your point here
My point is that I would advise someone who thinks they might be having a stroke to ring 999, not look up long Covid on Facebook, take a quack remedy and write a blog about it. As a further point I would say anyone spreading this stuff is totally irresponsible. Now what is your point.

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Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:19 am

Well there's a few, one of which is that you are talking about somebody who died a couple of weeks ago, somebody about whom you know nothing, and maybe you should think about your tone before mouthing off.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:22 am

JustinHorton wrote:
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Well there's a few, one of which is that you are talking about somebody who died a couple of weeks ago, somebody about whom you know nothing, and maybe you should think about your tone before mouthing off.
Let hope he didn't die of a stroke because he didn't seek the appropriate medical advice after reading rubbish spread by idiots.

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Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:27 am

I knew Ed Rooksby via social media for about fifteen years before his death and he was as thoughtful and intelligent a human being as you could come to come across.

The contrast with somebody who prefers to yap ignorantly and inappropriately is extreme. But it's the good who die young.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:36 am

Justin,
It is my view that people who are ill should seek advice from medical experts. I'm sorry that you think that is an extreme or ignorant view, but I'll stick with it for now.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 am

It's my view that you don't have the faintest idea from that piece how many doctors Ed Rooksby saw over the several months of his illness, that this hasn't stopped you weighing in with your ill-considered opinions expressed in an inappropriate manner, and that this is a thoroughly ignorant way to behave. I have reported some of your comments and can I suggest you reflect on your approach before adding to them. Speaking personally I will absolutely block you if you persist.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:05 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:43 am
It's my view that you don't have the faintest idea from that piece how many doctors Ed Rooksby saw over the several months of his illness, that this hasn't stopped you weighing in with your ill-considered opinions expressed in an inappropriate manner, and that this is a thoroughly ignorant way to behave. I have reported some of your comments and can I suggest you reflect on your approach before adding to them. Speaking personally I will absolyetly block you if you persist.
Please post links showing how Mr. Rooksby sought the appropriate medical treatment, that will be more useful to those going through similar things. Pieces advocating quackery are not.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:05 pm

OK, that's Matthew blocked. Or on my "foes" list, anyway, which has grown recently.

This isn't the sole instance recently of a poster not knowing how to behave with respect to serious subjects, nor of them not knowing when to stop. I would like not to draw generalisations about our community, of which at the end of the day I am a part, from this kind of thing, but it's getting harder.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:58 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:22 am
JustinHorton wrote:
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Well there's a few, one of which is that you are talking about somebody who died a couple of weeks ago, somebody about whom you know nothing, and maybe you should think about your tone before mouthing off.
Let hope he didn't die of a stroke because he didn't seek the appropriate medical advice after reading rubbish spread by idiots.
Having read the blog post, I feel you are being a little harsh on the author. We are all feeling the strain, I think. Recently I know a 34 year old who died from Covid, and several people suffering similar post covid symptoms as the blogger, and they feel almost paranoid that they are going to suddenly get worse and die at any moment. I have heard it described as a panic attack, and even petrification. The blog, rather like Irina Krush's description of her own experiences with covid, is illuminating, pretty objective, and certainly not as dangerous as a lot of the stuff I see posted on Facebook by chess players I thought had more sense.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:10 pm

For reference here is an account of Irina Krush's experiences
https://www.facebook.com/chessbaseindia ... 7782304262

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