4NCL Season 2023-24

Venues, fixtures, teams and related matters.
Roger de Coverly
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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:33 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:21 am

Team Allocation to Divisions 23-24 @ 25 June 2023 | 17:30



Division Two

Gonzaga 5 30½ Not entered

Division Three Knights

North East England 5 38½ Not entered
Poisoned Pawns 8 29½ Not entered

Division Three Bishops
Team MP GP

KJCA Kings 5 34 Not entered
West is Best 2 18 44 Not entered
So that's one promotion to Division 2, or more likely a reprieve from relegation, presumably for The Rookies and five promotions to Division 3 .

Top 5 named in Division 4 were

relegated teams
Shropshire & Friends 5 18½
MK Phoenix 2 3 23 (not entered)

finishers last season
Celtic Tigers 2 14 37
Wotton Hall 14 36
She Plays To Win Lionesses 13 35½
CSC/Kingston 2 13 34½

Neil Graham
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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Neil Graham » Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:52 am

It could be that some of the non-entrants have, despite the clear deadline from 4NCL, failed to heed these instructions. I assume they will retain their place if they re-enter quickly before vacancies are offered to other teams. I have no idea if there is a waiting list of prospective entrants.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:03 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:21 am
I think that gives us (correct me if I am wrong):

Team Allocation to Divisions 23-24 @ 25 June 2023 | 17:30

Division One
Team MP GP
Chess.com Manx Liberty 22 61½
Chessable White Rose 1 17 58
Cheddleton 17 55½
Wood Green 16 57½
The Sharks 1 15 53½
Wood Green Youth 14 48
Blackthorne 9 38
Celtic Tigers 1 6 37
Chessable White Rose 2 5 33
Barnet Knights A 20 55
Oxford 1 16 53
Alba 16 46½

Division Two
Team MP GP
Gonzaga 5 30½ Not entered
Cambridge University 1 4 28½
West is Best 1 2 26½
Barbican 4NCL 15 48
SchachAttack 12 46
The Sharks 2 11 43½
The ADs 10 42
Sussex Martlets 1 10 40½
CSC/Kingston 1 20 46
Warwickshire Select 1 18 50
Anglian Avengers 1 17 40
Cambridge University 2 16 36½

Division Three Knights
Team MP GP
North East England 5 38½ Not entered
Rhyfelwyr Essyllwg 13 33
Hull & East Riding Tigers 13 31
Crowthorne A 12 32½
Iceni 1 10 31½
Sussex Martlets 2 9 29½
Poisoned Pawns 8 29½ Not entered
Surbiton 5 22½
Watford A 4 20
MK Phoenix 1 5 21½
Poole Patzers 18 44
Wessex Some Stars A 16 40½

Division Three Bishops
Team MP GP
The Rookies 8 39½
KJCA Kings 5 34 Not entered
West is Best 2 18 44 Not entered
Warwickshire Select 2 16 37½
Chessable White Rose 3 12 33½
Oxford 2 10 36½
Ashfield 1 10 27½
Brown Jack 8 29½
Manchester Manticores 7 19½ Greater Manchester Woodpushers 1
Barnet Knights B 5 29½
Average Wood Pushers A 20 47 Greater Manchester Woodpushers 2
MASCeteers 14 40
I'm not sure if Chessable White Rose being one squad, rather than two, means they will only have one team in Division One. I guess we will find out soon enough.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Ian Thompson » Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:33 pm

Neil Graham wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:52 am
It could be that some of the non-entrants have, despite the clear deadline from 4NCL, failed to heed these instructions. I assume they will retain their place if they re-enter quickly before vacancies are offered to other teams.
That might be difficult to justify after refusing a slightly late entry from e2e4 chess a few years ago.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Neil Graham » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:56 pm

The number of teams has risen slightly to 69; I am presuming that two new teams - "The Audible Checks" and "ToBeDecided" are the additions. The latter name is probably whilst they think up a more suitable title - Desert Penguins having already been taken.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:48 pm

West is Best have disappeared off the list
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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Neil Graham » Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:53 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:48 pm
West is Best have disappeared off the list
Now 72 - in come KJCA Kings, Shropshire & Friends plus an extra Celtic Tigers team.

Perhaps Jack can tell us what has happened to West is Best which had 30 registered players last year?

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:14 pm

No entry from Spirit of Atticus
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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Bob Clark » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:30 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:14 pm
No entry from Spirit of Atticus
I think that makes Manchester despite a couple of name changes the last survivors of the original Div 3 North

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:52 pm

Bob Clark wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:30 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:14 pm
No entry from Spirit of Atticus
I think that makes Manchester despite a couple of name changes the last survivors of the original Div 3 North
That's sad, we played them in our first match (there were Bradford A & B, Jorvik, Holmes Chapel, Aigburth and Cheddleton 2 that first season 2010/11)
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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:59 pm

I think we ran out of captains.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:04 pm

Neil Graham wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:53 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:48 pm
West is Best have disappeared off the list
Now 72 - in come KJCA Kings, Shropshire & Friends plus an extra Celtic Tigers team.

Perhaps Jack can tell us what has happened to West is Best which had 30 registered players last year?
One of their players told me they had changed team name but didn't know what it was. Reading Jack's subsequent post though sounds fairly ominous.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:47 pm

Am I right that we were told there would be a maximum of 80 teams?

I was wondering if 72 was the final number, given the original deadline has closed
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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by Neil Graham » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:08 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:47 pm
Am I right that we were told there would be a maximum of 80 teams?

I was wondering if 72 was the final number, given the original deadline has closed
As I understand it the closing date for current teams to renew was 16th August - indeed there was a clock on the 4NCLwebsite counting down to the deadline. Any new teams/additional teams will now be given the opportunity to fill the vacancies up to a maximum of 80.

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Re: 4NCL Season 2023-24

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:00 am

Ah, I am told we are now The Audible Checks, which clears that up.