4NCL Season 2023-24

[Mick Norris]

Ok, are we now as follows?

Team Allocation to Divisions 23-24 @ 25 June 2023 | 17:30

Division One
Team MP GP
Chess.com Manx Liberty 22 61½
Chessable White Rose 1 17 58
Cheddleton 17 55½
Wood Green 16 57½
The Sharks 1 15 53½
Wood Green Youth 14 48
Blackthorne 9 38
Celtic Tigers 1 6 37
Chessable White Rose 2 5 33
Barnet Knights A 20 55
Oxford 1 16 53
Alba 16 46½

Division Two
Team MP GP
Gonzaga 5 30½ Not entered
Cambridge University 1 4 28½
West is Best 1 2 26½ now The Audible Checks
Barbican 4NCL 15 48
SchachAttack 12 46
The Sharks 2 11 43½
The ADs 10 42
Sussex Martlets 1 10 40½
CSC/Kingston 1 20 46
Warwickshire Select 1 18 50
Anglian Avengers 1 17 40
Cambridge University 2 16 36½

Division Three Knights
Team MP GP
North East England 5 38½ Not entered
Rhyfelwyr Essyllwg 13 33
Hull & East Riding Tigers 13 31
Crowthorne A 12 32½
Iceni 1 10 31½
Sussex Martlets 2 9 29½
Poisoned Pawns 8 29½ Not entered
Surbiton 5 22½
Watford A 4 20
MK Phoenix 1 5 21½
Poole Patzers 18 44
Wessex Some Stars A 16 40½

Division Three Bishops
Team MP GP
The Rookies 8 39½
KJCA Kings 5 34
West is Best 2 18 44 Not entered
Warwickshire Select 2 16 37½
Chessable White Rose 3 12 33½
Oxford 2 10 36½
Ashfield 1 10 27½
Brown Jack 8 29½
Manchester Manticores 7 19½ Greater Manchester Woodpushers 1
Barnet Knights B 5 29½
Average Wood Pushers A 20 47 Greater Manchester Woodpushers 2
MASCeteers 14 40

[Roger de Coverly]

Ok, are we now as follows?

Loose ends are which team will fill the vacant slot in division 2 from the loss of Gonzaga and who will be promoted from division 4 or not relegated to make up the gaps in the Division 3's. A number of relegated teams are among those not entering.

[Jonathan Rogers]

Possibly too the White Rose situation, as Loz mentioned - although they played as White Rose 1 and 2 last year in the same division (nonetheless with separate team lists), so it is not obvious to me that they might be intending any changes this year.

[Jonathan Rogers]

As to what happens in div 2 since Gonzaga have withdrawn, the place should go to the "highest relegated" team of last year (the Rookies).

[LawrenceCooper]

Possibly too the White Rose situation, as Loz mentioned - although they played as White Rose 1 and 2 last year in the same division (nonetheless with separate team lists), so it is not obvious to me that they might be intending any changes this year.

I think that situation clarified, although initially showing as one they are now showing as separate squads.

[Jonathan Rogers]

Incidentally, I see that Gonzaga has not yet re-entered, but that is not the same as their withdrawing. Hopefully, previous assumptions aside, there is an important difference.

[Mick Norris]

Division One:
Chess.com Manx Liberty, Cheddleton, Wood Green, The Sharks, Wood Green Youth, Blackthorne, Celtic Tigers 1, Chessable White Rose 2, Barnet Knights A, Oxford 1, Alba

Division Two:
Cambridge University 1, The Audible Checks, Barbican 4NCL, SchachAttack, The Sharks 2, The ADs, Sussex Martlets 1, CSC/Kingston 1, Warwickshire Select 1, Anglian Avengers 1, Cambridge University 2, The Rookies

This seems to be the consensus

[Mick Norris]

Division Three

Knights:
Rhyfelwyr Essyllwg
Hull & East Riding Tigers
Crowthorne A
Iceni 1
Sussex Martlets 2
Surbiton
Watford A
MK Phoenix 1
Poole Patzers
Wessex Some Stars A
plus 2

Bishops:
KJCA Kings
Warwickshire Select 2
Chessable White Rose 3
Oxford 2
Ashfield 1
Brown Jack
Greater Manchester Woodpushers 1
Barnet Knights B
MASCeteers
plus 3

(Greater Manchester Woodpushers 2 have moved to Div 4)

MK Phoenix 2 and Shropshire & Friends were relegated from Div 3W, but MK 2 haven't entered

Celtic Tigers 2, Wotton Hall, She Plays to Win Lionesses, CSC/Kingston 2, War and Piece A were the next 5 in Div 4

[LawrenceCooper]

Division One:
Chess.com Manx Liberty, Cheddleton, Wood Green, The Sharks, Wood Green Youth, Blackthorne, Celtic Tigers 1, Chessable White Rose 2, Barnet Knights A, Oxford 1, Alba

Division Two:
Cambridge University 1, The Audible Checks, Barbican 4NCL, SchachAttack, The Sharks 2, The ADs, Sussex Martlets 1, CSC/Kingston 1, Warwickshire Select 1, Anglian Avengers 1, Cambridge University 2, The Rookies

This seems to be the consensus

Plus Chessable White Rose 1 in Division 1.

[Mick Norris]

Thanks, must have edited them out by accident

[Neil Graham]

Incidentally, I see that Gonzaga has not yet re-entered, but that is not the same as their withdrawing. Hopefully, previous assumptions aside, there is an important difference.

Gonzaga have now re-entered. Another new team, (Merseyside I think), takes the total entry to 74.

[Mick Norris]

There were 73 a couple of days ago when I checked, but I couldn't see who, so that must have been Merseyside

Their captain is also their county captain, so will be interesting to see who is in their squad

Gonzaga entering simplifies the top 2 divisions

[Mark Howitt]

Thanks, must have edited them out by accident

What an accident to make!!

[Ian Thompson]

Ok, are we now as follows?

Team Allocation to Divisions 23-24 @ 25 June 2023 | 17:30

Updated allocation to divisions now published. It's not immediately obvious if there have been any more changes because the teams are now listed in alphabetical order.

[Mick Norris]

The top 2 divisions are as expected

Div 3 Knights has seen Celtic Tigers 2, CSC/Kingston 2 and Wotton Hall in for NE England, Poisoned Pawns and Watford A from the 25 June allocation of teams to divisions

Div 3 Bishops has Manchester Manticores & Average Woodpushers merged, with only 1 team as Greater Woodpushers in this division (the other drops to Div 4), West is Best 2 drop out, She Plays to win Lionesses and Shropshire & Friends come in

26 teams in Div 4, so that's 74 in total