4NCL On-Line Season 3

Venues, fixtures, teams and related matters.
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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Neil Graham » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:00 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
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Final total appears to be 259, plus 186 in junior 4NCL
Although the make-up of the individual divisions have yet to be published, I see from the 4NCL website that we now have seven divisions. Thus a team having to start at the bottom will take until 2023 to reach Division One.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:01 pm

Neil Graham wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:00 pm
Thus a team having to start at the bottom will take until 2023 to reach Division One.
Two years to get from bottom to top, indeed.
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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by MJMcCready » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:52 pm

DO we know when the schedule and pairings will be announced?

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by David Robertson » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:34 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:52 pm
DO we know when the schedule and pairings will be announced?
Never mind that.

Who is the cheating ECF Arbiter?

And which squads have cheating Captains?

Should we look to no-shows for answers?

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by MJMcCready » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:38 pm

Someone who is unlikely to prosper from their conduct but likely to be sporting a black eye at a congress later in the year I'd imagine.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Nick Grey » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:13 pm

No names. Disappointing raised in the report with no natural justice.
Should we look to no-shows for answers? No the team with my club name in it has nobody willing to run it.
MJM out of order again.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by MJMcCready » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:50 pm

It's a sense of humour and no more.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:56 pm

Nick Grey wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:13 pm
No the team with my club name in it has nobody willing to run it.
But why is that? This Forum demands answers.
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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Neil Graham » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:47 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:52 pm
DO we know when the schedule and pairings will be announced?
Pairings out now.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by MJMcCready » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:35 pm

ah yes, okay thanks.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Neil Graham » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:06 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:01 pm
Neil Graham wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:00 pm
Thus a team having to start at the bottom will take until 2023 to reach Division One.
Two years to get from bottom to top, indeed.
Now that the League structure has been announced possibly a time for comment. Although participation has increased, this seems to be at grassroots level. At the top end there have been a number of withdrawals which appears to have weakened the overall strength of Division One. Meanwhile a whole host of new teams will be starting in Division Seven and are facing a six division slog to reach the premier division in 2023.

This conveniently brings me to the question of promotion and relegation. 40 teams might have been anticipating relegation according to the spreadsheet of 06 January; six have withdrawn and disappeared leaving 34 expecting to go down. In fact no teams at all have suffered this fate; all 34 sides remain where they were. Where vacancies occur the first sides to benefit are those that filled these lowly position and they have all been spared; having said this more sides have been promoted than might have been expected. I am firmly of the opinion that failure should result in relegation and if a team finishes in last position of an eight team all-play-all it should go down whatever the circumstances to be replaced by a more successful team from the division below. We have some shining examples this year - the worst being a team that P7 W0 D0 L7 and games W0 D0 L26 - and there are several others not much better - and all retained their places to suffer the same fate again this time.

Of course the rules cannot be changed for Season Three but they should be shook up for Season Four as I'm sure we will still be in the throes of lockdown then.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Nick Grey » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 pm

I hope we do not have a Season Five. Did clubs have a choice?

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Neil Graham » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:50 pm

Nick Grey wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 pm
I hope we do not have a Season Five. Did clubs have a choice?
A choice for what - clubs have a choice whether they want to play or not? I have not played an otb game since March 2020. We cannot expect otb chess until at the earliest very late Spring. The ECF calendar lists two congresses East Devon (end Feb) and Hull Rapidplay (April) - imho neither stand a chance of taking place.

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by Nick Grey » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:26 pm

I agree. Summer outdoor games and chess in central london may not happen. Sept 2021 earliest Imo

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Re: 4NCL On-Line Season 3

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:57 pm

Neil Graham wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:50 pm
We cannot expect otb chess until at the earliest very late Spring.
Which year?
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