Search found 3340 matches

by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:06 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Alternatively, taking my other number being 3000 players with an average of 10 games each, this would take too long for the human team simply because there were 10 times as many suspects to investigate. Yes, but we know from looking at the Chess.com cheat numbers which are in the public domain that...
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:58 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Well if you have an automated system why would you design it to throw up 100 games for a human to look at if you knew they only needed to look at 10 (those numbers are for illustrative purposes only). You would simply modify the algorithm so it worked better.
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:45 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

It makes no sense, but I was using Roger's numbers
by Matthew Turner
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Matthew, you aren't rebutting my Lichess numbers, just coming up with what Chess.com claim. It's entirely possible that their claim is true but I've no greater reason to believe Chess.com than any other organisation with a product to sell. Furthermore, since neither platform wishes to disclose its ...
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Thanks to Matthew and Ian for drawing attention to that interview, where "40-50 people" was indeed mentioned and, later, "the majority of whom are volunteers". Apparently a couple of those people are IMs along with several FMs and NMs. The interviewee also confirmed what I imagine most of us believ...
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:06 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Continuing Nick's striving for his evidence based approach, here are some figures from Chess.com that a simple google search threw up
https://www.chess.com/article/view/onli ... g#closures
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

For automated algorithm to work they require a very high threshold of evidence, thus they are not going to be making decisions based on single games. Alternatively just use your common sense, do you really believe Lichess are banning 30,000 people a day?
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Thanks to Matthew and Ian for drawing attention to that interview, where "40-50 people" was indeed mentioned and, later, "the majority of whom are volunteers". Apparently a couple of those people are IMs along with several FMs and NMs. The interviewee also confirmed what I imagine most of us believ...
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:40 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

You can listen for yourself here
https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/new-blog
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:38 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Mathew reckons as many as 40-50 people are on the cheat detection team. If they need that many then sandbagging' (in this case still not proven) will be low priority. I may be wrong but my reading of Matthew's comment ["If there are 40-50 people ..."] seemed speculative rather than a statement of b...
by Matthew Turner
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:17 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

The Lichess founder had an AMA (ask me anything) on Reddit. I haven't read the entire thread, but it appears that Lichess gave access to USCF to their anti-cheating method (under NDA) and as a result USCF may well "accredit" Lichess and use it for rating purposes. USCF statment here : https://new.u...
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:48 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

No reason to see that game in isolation. I have played through a lot of this guy's games (from recently) and I'm not entirely clear that he is is purposefully losing. He does some strange things and I guess he has a bit of a an attitude. Take this game https://lichess.org/Bf24NO2q/black#10 Perfectly...
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:16 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Here's my game with him. Perfect theory - albeit after very curious thinking time on move 2 and 3 - then ... Well what would you call it? A lot of mouse slips? [Event "Rated Blitz game"] [Site "https://lichess.org/jOEb5a7E"] [Date "2021.04.05"] [White "freddy1963"] [Black "jthechessb"] [Result "0-1...
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:06 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

It would appear the player has been purposefully losing games, but I am not sure that you can say that they have been purposefully losing games to deflate or increase their rating. Well I have my own view on that - but as demonstrated above, it is not necessary to say that they have been purposeful...
by Matthew Turner
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Cheating in chess
Replies: 2534
Views: 207781

Re: Cheating in chess

Jonathan, I am simply trying to maintain an open mind on this In the game you highlighted https://lichess.org/Wx70Qor6#26 It ends with the terrible blunder Qxd7. You could explain this in a couple of ways. The LIchess engine suggests that Qd4 is the best move so perhaps this was intended and there a...